嘿 一 二 三 Hey, one, two, three.
仇 念
这个房间的潜力令人惊讶 The potential in this room is astounding.
我喜欢这种潜力 I love the potential.
完全的 Hundred percent.
主 演 B. J·诺 瓦 克
这是一个有无限可能的世界 It's a world of infinite possibilities.
- 无限的 - 完全的 - Infinite. - Hundred percent.
在晚上这个时刻 我该在"嘿"里输入多少个"Y"? How many "Y"s do I put in "Hey" at this time of night?
- 在凌晨2点前吗? - 是的 - Is it before 2:00 a.m.? - Yeah.
- 两个"Y" - 好的 - Two "Y"s. - Okay.
- 三个代表渴望 - 渴望 - Three is thirsty. - Thirsty.
一个是轻率 And one is curt.
你知道我在想什么吗? You know what I was thinking about?
主 演 波 伊 德·霍 布 鲁 克
饼干面团变得如此受欢迎 Cookie dough became so popular.
是因为它还没有完成 它仍可能是任何东西 It's 'cause it's not finished. It could still be anything.
完全的 Hundred percent.
用饼干面团做饼干只是一个建议 Making cookies out of cookie dough is just a suggestion.
主 演 J·史 密 斯-卡 梅 隆
- 完全的 - 这就是大家说的 - Hundred percent. - That's what they say
- 你可以用它来做 - 对 - you could do with it. - Right.
还有同样的事... 比如和某人约会 And the same thing... like dating someone
超过一个月 for more than a month.
这只是个服务建议 It's just a serving suggestion.
莉 奥·蒂 普 顿
完全的 Hundred percent.
“卡拉问号”意思是我不记得 "Kara question mark." That means I don't remember
- 我在哪里见过她了 - 好吧 - where I met her. - Okay.
但这是一个带感叹号的问号 But it's a question mark with an exclamation point,
这意味着我应该希望跟进 which means I should want to follow up.
德 芙·卡 梅 隆
- 不过我们先看看有哪些选择 - 是的 - Let's see what the options are first though. - Yes.
确实如此 这就是我们所处的世界 Exactly that. That's the world that we're living in.
你就可以看到任何东西的选项是什么 You can just see what the options are for anything.
比如旅行 Like with travel.
你不会只选择你看到的第一个航班 You're not gonna just pick the first flight you see.
你想看看所有航班 You want to see all the flights.
- 这是个好事 - 是的 - That's a good thing. - Yeah.
这样你就能找到最好的航班 You get the best flight that way.
为什么不通过观察所有 Why wouldn't you get the best person
潜在的人而找到最好的人呢? by looking at all the potential people?
伊 莎 贝 拉·阿 玛 拉
而且你怎么能指望找到一个 And how could you even expect to find one person
能满足你所有需求的人呢? who could fulfill all of your needs?
在这里找到最适合你的人会更容易 It's easier just to find the most supportive person here.
- 这里最有趣的人 - 对 - The funniest person here. - Right.
- 这里最好的性爱 - 对 - The best sex here. - Right.
这里最好的建议 The best advice here.
这里次好的性爱 The second-best sex here.
完全的 Hundred percent.
我永远都不会去 I don't ever want to go past
想知道某人的父母是做什么的 knowing what someone's parents do for a living.
如果我知道某人的父母是做什么的... If I know what someone's parents do for a living...
- 对 - 说明我们在一起太久了 - Right. Right. - I've hung too long.
又比如兄弟姐妹 为什么有人想了解 Or, like, siblings. Like, why does anyone want to know
你的兄弟姐妹? 尤其是刚认识 about your siblings? Especially so early.
- 是的 - “你有多少兄弟姐妹?” - Yeah. - "How many siblings do you have? "
这是否曾经让你改变过和某人约会的想法? Has that ever changed whether you want to date somebody?
比如“我有两个姐妹和一个兄弟” It's like, "I have two sisters and a brother."
- 哇 等等 - 好吧 我就走了 - Whoa. Hold on. - Well, I'm out of here.
- 我就走了 - 知道我刚才说的啥? - I'm out of here. - You know what I just say?
我只和独生孩子或三个孩子中最大的那个约会 I only date only children or the oldest of three.
俗话说“行使你的选择权” They say, "Exercise your options."
它就像块肌肉 It's like a muscle.
- 选择权就像块肌肉 - 是的 - Options are like a muscle. - Yeah.
有些人是萎缩虚弱的 Some people are weak and atrophied,
而他们不懂得 and they don't understand
- 如何行使他们的选择权 - 是的 - how to exercise their options. - Yeah.
我的选择是结实 强壮和丰满的 My options are burly and strong and turgid.
完全的 Hundred percent.
人们说我们这样的人害怕承诺 People say guys like us are afraid of commitment.
原 创 音 乐 芬尼阿斯·奥康奈尔
不 我们害怕承诺那些 No. We're afraid of commitment
我们无法摆脱的东西 to something we can't get out of.
不存在对承诺恐惧这种事 There's no such thing as fear of commitment.
对承诺的恐惧就是对后悔的恐惧 Fear of commitment is fear of regret.
完全的 或对亲密关系的恐惧 Hundred percent. Or fear of intimacy.
拜托 我和每个人都很亲密 Please, I'm intimate with everybody.
你是否曾想过 Do you ever wonder,
如果你真的发现与某人有更深的关系 if you did find something deeper with somebody,
那是否在某种程度上更有意义? if that would somehow be more meaningful?
我有时会这么想 I do sometimes.
就像现在 我正在随意的约会 Like right now, I'm casually dating,
比如 六个或七个不同的女人 like, six or seven different women.
但我内心深处确实想知道 认真的 But I do wonder, deep down, what it would be like
和两三个人约会是什么样 to seriously date two or three.
即使我有时不理解你 Even when I don't understand you,
我也比任何人都更了解你 I understand you better than I understand anybody.
- 完全的 - 我喜欢我们一起闲逛 - Hundred percent. - I love when we hang out.
这就像 如果有人在录制这个 This is like, if someone were recording this,
那我的播客就该是这样 that's what my podcast should be.
这里应该有 比如在我下面有一个 There should be, like, the sound of a stand-up bass
立式贝司的演奏声 playing under me right now.
好吧 我弄一个 Okay, I got one.
“布鲁内特·兰登书屋派对” "Brunette Random House Party."
“兰登书屋” 出版商? "Random House," the publisher?
或者“随机屋” 比如一个随机屋派对? Or "random house," like a random house party?
噢 "艾米丽·沃格" Oh, "Emily Vogue."
呃 我打算用“卡拉问号” Uh, I'm gonna go with "Kara question mark"
因为我觉得今晚宇宙要给我一个惊喜 'cause I feel like letting the universe surprise me tonight.
- 活着是多美好的时光 - 完全的 - What a time to be alive. - Hundred percent.
- 完全的 - 完全的 - Hundred percent. - Hundred percent.
完全的 Hundred percent.
- 完全的 - 完全的 - Hundred percent. - Hundred percent.
我想明白了 I figured it out.
编 剧 导 演 B·J·诺 瓦 克
想明白什么? Figured what out?
美国 America.
好吧 Okay.
我知道你想笑 I know you're laughing,
但我有一个你会喜欢的方案 but I have a pitch you're really gonna like.
美国是分裂的 America is divided,
但不是我们认为的原因 but it's not for the reason that we think.
我们认为 美国是被地理环境分裂的 We think that America's divided by geography:
红州 蓝州 市 县 red state, blue state, city, country.
我们失去了一些更深刻的东西 We're missing something far more profound.
美国并没有被空间分裂 America isn't divided by space.
美国是被时间分裂的 America is divided by time.
- 我们不再生活在当下了 - 嗯 - We don't live in the moment anymore. - Mm.
当我们可以生活在被记录下的任何时刻 And why would we, when we can live in any moment
我们为什么要这么做? that's ever been recorded?
当我们体验到我们真正喜爱的东西时 And when we experience something we really love,
我们压倒性的本能是 our overwhelming instinct
以某种方式将其存档以备后用 is to somehow file it away for later.
这很有意思 That's interesting.
我们不在剧院里看电影 We don't watch movies in the theater.
电视播出时我们不看 We don't watch TV when it airs.
我们甚至没有在同一时间进行对话 We don't even have conversations at the same time
因为我们发短信 because we text.
当你发短信时 我可以说“嗨” And when you text, I can say, "Hi,"
而你可以在一秒内回一个“嗨” and you could say "Hi" back in a second,
- 或一分钟 - 或永远不会 - or a minute. - Or never.
或永远不会 因为是你 Or never 'cause it's you
并且你正在忙于制作美国最大的播客 and you're too busy producing the biggest podcast in America,
这也是我的观点 因为我们都在生活在 which is kind of my point because we're all living
我们自己的个性化时代 in our own individualized times.
这就是为什么我们生活在分裂的时代 That's why we're living in divided times.
这... 我喜欢这个 噢 That's... I like that. Ooh.
- 你喜欢这个吗? - 是的 - You like that? - Yeah.
那你是怎么想的? 你觉得这是个故事吗? So, what do you think? Do you think that's a story?
这是个理论 It's a theory.
- 理论就是故事 - 不 理论不是故事 - A theory is a story. - No, a theory is not a story.
当它是关于一个概念时 它就是 Yes, it is when it's about an idea.
而美国就是一个概念 And America is an idea.
这就是它的伟大之处 That's what makes it so great.
- 所以 如果你... - 不 美国是它的人 - So, if you're... - No, America is its people.
这就是为什么它如此混乱 That's what makes it so fucked up.
嘿 不是每个纽约的白人 Hey. Not every white guy in New York
都需要一个播客 needs to have a podcast.
你有经过认证的评测经验 You have the verified check mark.
你得到了《纽约客》的职位 You got the New Yorker position.
我想要更多的东西 I want something more.
我不只是想成为一名作家 I don't just want to be a writer.
我... 我想成为一个声音 I... I want to be a voice.
虽然听起来很傻 但我关心美国 As dorky as it sounds, I care about America.
并且不是用拉娜·德尔雷那种渐淡风格 And not in that faded Lana Del Rey way.
现在我看到它正在崩溃 And now I see it falling apart,
而我们只是站在角落里 and we're just standing in the corner,
比如 取笑它 你知道吗? like, making fun of it, you know?
我想尝试讲述一些... 连接起来的故事 I'd like to try to tell some story that... connects.
好吧 好吧 好 然后... 我来帮你连接 Okay, okay. Well, then... let me help you connect.
用你对美国的所有想法... With all your ideas about America...
即使它们很好 对吗? even if they're good, right?...
你必须把它们放进一个故事里 you gotta put 'em in a story
因为美国人听故事 'cause Americans listen to stories.
因为美国人是人 'Cause Americans are people.
他们不是... 概念 They're not... ideas.
- 你在这里 - 是的 - You're-you're here. - Yeah.
你需要在这里 You need to be here.
这有意义吗? Does that make sense?
完全有 Hundred percent.
我是罗宾·狄龙 I'm Robin Dillon,
这是“美国时刻” and this is American Moment.
对蒙大拿州西部飞蝇钓活动的组织者... To the organizers of the Western Montana fly-fishing...
美国的民主
消息: 布鲁内特·兰登书屋派对 来了
- 嗨 - 嗨 - Hi. - Hey.
你的发型变了 You changed your hair.
- 是的 你看到了 - 当然了 - Yeah, you noticed. - Of course.
书籍世界怎么样了? How's the book world?
什么? The what?
呃 没什么 呃 想喝点什么吗? Uh, nothing. Uh, can I get you a drink?
- 是的 - 很好 - Yes. - Great.
呃 给你调点什么? Um, what can I make you?
呃 你能不能弄点 比如白葡萄酒? Um, can you do, like, a white wine?
呃 当然 Um, sure.
我必须为此开一瓶 I have to open a bottle for that.
噢 没事 开吧 Oh, that's okay. Open it.
我只想要 比如说 一杯 I only want, like, one glass.
- 喂? - 本? - Hello? - Ben?
是的 喂? Yeah. Hello?
这是你生活中 This is the worst phone call
接到过的最糟糕的电话 you're ever gonna get in your life.
噢 天哪 Oh, my God.
你的女朋友死了 Your girlfriend's dead.
抱歉 什... 你说什么? I'm sorry. Wh... What did you say?
她死了 She's dead.
不 不 前面部分 No, no, the first part.
你女朋友 Your girlfriend.
嗯 很抱歉 Yeah, I'm sorry.
嘿 我不... 我不明白 Hey, I don't... I don't understand.
我知道 知道 知道 I know. I know, I know.
我们也觉得想不明白 We can't make no sense of it either.
你是谁? Who is this?
我是泰·肖 }This is Ty Shaw.
艾比的哥哥 Abby's brother.
呃 嘿 我不... 我真的不知道该怎么说 Um, hey, I don't... I don't really know what to say.
噢 我知道 我知道这肯定很难接受 Oh, I know, I know this must be so hard to process.
很抱歉 I'm so sorry.
艾比告诉过我们很多关于你的事 Abby told us so much about you.
艾比 Abby.
噢 天哪 Oh, my God.
艾比 Abby.
谁是艾比? Who's Abby?
呃 一个女孩 呃... Uh, some girl. Um...
- 那是谁? - 呃 一个... - Who's that? - Uh, some...
我们确实出去过好几次 We definitely hung out a few times.
我不会说... I-I wouldn't have...
葬礼在星期天 Funeral's Sunday.
噢 天哪 我 呃... Oh, my God. I'm, uh...
你能告诉我在哪里可以送花吗? Can you tell me where I can send flowers?
噢 这里不需要送花 本 Oh, there's no need to send flowers, Ben.
噢 不 不 不 不 Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
我绝对要送花 I'm absolutely gonna send flowers.
只是 呃 你告诉我地址 Just, uh, you tell me the address.
你能不能把它发给我 See if you can text it to me.
如果你真的想送 机场边上有一家花店 If you really want, there's a flower shop by the airport.
我去接你时可以顺便去那里 We'll just swing by there when I pick you up.
你什么时候来接我? When you pick me up?
呃 嘿 Uh, hey.
我会在精神上去那里 I will be there in spirit.
精神航空: 一家廉价航空公司
精神航空 对 伙计 Spirit Airlines. Right, man.
是个不错的选择 That's a great choice.
告诉我 你是什么航班 You just let me know what flight.
呃 嘿 呃 我... Uh, hey, uh, I...
这只是... This is just...
我做不到 I can't do this.
没人能做到这点 None of us can do this.
没一个人 Not alone.
你们面前本有个完整的未来 Y'all had your whole future ahead of you.
好吧 Okay.
好了 别哭了 Okay, don't cry.
我是说 不 哭 哭吧 I mean, no, cry. Cry.
- 呃 当然 - 噢 天哪 - Um, of course. - Oh, God.
要与你的情感相通 呃... Be in touch with your emotions. Um...
我不敢相信我们必须经历这些 I can't believe we have to go through this.
好的 好的 嗯 嘿 Okay. All right. Um, hey.
提示下 你们究竟在哪里 Remind me where you guys are exactly.
好吧 你以前去过德克萨斯吗? Well, you've been to Texas before?
德克萨斯 Texas.
好吧 你们在奥斯汀附近吗? Okay, are you near Austin?
不 我们不在奥斯汀附近 No, we're not near Austin.
- 达拉斯? - 达拉斯不在德州 - Dallas? - Dallas ain't Texas.
- 休斯顿? - 休斯顿在另一个县 - Houston? - Houston's another country.
你为什么不直接告诉我在哪里... Why don't you just tell me where...
你听说过阿比林这个城市吗? Have you heard of Abilene? The city.
从没听说过阿比林 没有 Never heard of Abilene, no.
好吧 阿比林距达拉斯大约三小时车程 Well, Abilene is about three hours from Dallas.
好的 Okay.
而我们离阿比林有五小时的车程 And we're five hours from Abilene.
女士们 先生们... Ladies and gentlemen...
嘿 嗨 Hey. Hi.
在她还是个小女孩的时候就很难管教... And while she could be quite a handful when she was a girl...
我真不敢相信我在说我女儿的过去 I can't believe I'm talking about my daughter in the past tense.
她当时住在纽约 She was living in New York.
她在音乐中找到了自己的声音 She was finding her voice in music.
而且她最终找到了爱情 And she finally found love.
本·马纳洛维茨 Ben Manalowitz.
一个成功的作家 A successful writer
并为《纽约杂志》定期撰稿 and a regular contributor to New York Magazine.
是《纽约客》 The New Yorker.
但即使他取得了所有的成功 But even with all his success,
他也始终尊重我们的女儿 he always respected our girl for who she was.
“妈妈” 她说 "Mama," she said,
“知道他在手机里怎么保存我的吗? "you know how he has me saved in his phone?
是德克萨斯” Texas."
嗯 尽管她的一生很短暂 Well, as short as her life was,
但她找到了自己的声音 she found her voice,
并找到了爱情 and she found love.
而这就是全部 对吗? And that's all there is, right?
没错 That's right.
我们听听本的发言 Let's hear from Ben.
- 请讲 - 去吧 本 - Go ahead. - Go on, Ben.
不 我不能 No, I couldn't.
- 谢谢 - 你得说说 - Thank you. - You got it.
- 兄弟 上来吧 - 请说点什么 - Brother, come up. - Please say something.
上去吧 Get up there.
神父 先生 Father. Sir.
我从来没有想到会遇到这样的情况 I never expected to be in a situation like this.
我敢说我们都没有 I'm sure none of us did.
我希望能更好的了解她 I wish I had known her better.
我希望我有更多时间和她在一起 I wish I had spent more time with her.
我相信在此时 我们所有人都有... I'm sure all of us feel that...
这种感觉 right now.
是的 Yes.
她喜欢音乐 She loved music.
我知道的 我知道 I know that. I know that.
她喜欢音乐 She loved music.
是的 Yeah.
而且... And...
...她将永远是我们心中的歌 ...she will always be a song in our hearts.
“我们心中的歌” "Song in our hearts."
呀 你这句话差点让我哭了 Phew. You damn near broke me with that one.
我不知道你怎么样 虽然... Now, I don't know about you, but...
我们相处时间不长 但我觉得我们之间 I know it hasn't been long, but I feel like me and you,
有一种真正的联系 we got a real bond.
有点像家人 Kind of like family.
完全是 Hundred percent.
哇 Wow.
完全是? A hundred percent?
是的 Yeah.
是的 今天我觉得和你们真的很亲近 Yeah. I felt really close to you guys today.
不只是说说而已 Don't just say that to say it.
- 是的 - 我知道了 - Yeah. - I knew it.
艾比琳不只是死了 Abilene just didn't die.
她是被谋杀的 She was murdered.
我们两个要为她的死报仇 And the two of us are gonna avenge her death.
什么? What?
你和我 我们将追踪杀害她的凶手 You and me, we're gonna track her killer down
并实施复仇 and deliver vengeance.
好吧 没有人说过有什么凶手 Okay, nobody said anything about a killer.
用药过量? An overdose?
在一个油田的聚会上? At a party in an oil field?
是的 这姑娘生命中从未吃过这么多布洛芬 Yeah. The girl never took so much as an Advil in her life.
你知道的 你比任何人都更了解她 You know that. You know her better than anybody.
你有没有为此事报警? Did you call the police about this?
在德克萨斯 我们不打911 In Texas, we don't dial 911.
甚至 比如火灾也不打? Not even for, like, a fire?
火灾或急诊 很好 Fire or ambulance, fine.
你认为是谁干的? Who do you think did it?
我有几个推测 I got a couple theories.
卡特尔 我见过一个墨西哥帮派成员 Cartels. Mexican gangbanger I got my eyes on.
我是说 这只是冰山一角 I mean, this is just the beginning. It goes deep.
依据是什么呢? And what's this based on?
直觉 Gut.
对 但这背后是什么呢? Right. What's behind that though?
直觉背后没有东西 Ain't nothing behind gut.
直觉在其他一切事物背后 不然 你是谁? Gut's behind everything else. Otherwise, who are you?
我真的觉得这是警察的事 I really think this is something for the police.
是的 你说到了警察 Yeah. You talk about the police
好像哪里都是一样的 like it's just the same everywhere.
好比警察是 呃 麦当劳 Like the police is, um, McDonald's
而正义是个麦当劳蛋卷 and justice is an Egg McMuffin.
我们没有警察 We don't have the police.
我们有迈克和丹 We got Mike and Dan.
你和我 我们是她生命中的男人 You and me, we were the men in her life.
而他们惹了两个不该惹的人 And they fucked with the wrong two guys.
好吧 呃... Okay. Um...
所以 比如个人的极限 So, as, like, a personal boundary,
每个人都是不同的 like, everybody's different.
有些人不吃某种食物 Some people don't eat certain foods.
知道吗 每个人... You know, everybody...
- 我不为死亡复仇 - 嗯 - I don't avenge deaths. - Mm-hmm.
这就是我 It's just who I am.
我... 你知道 我并不是生活在连姆·尼森的电影中 I... You know, I don't live in a Liam Neeson movie.
但你看起来有点像连姆·尼森电影中的人 But you kind of look like a guy from a Liam Neeson movie though.
好吧 Okay.
我在想是哪一个呢? Which one am I thinking about?
有一列火车 不 那是... It-it was a train. No, i-it was...
- 那是电视上的 - 我也不知道 - It was just on TV. - I don't know.
《辛德勒名单》 噢 天哪 Schindler's List. Oh, my God.
你看起来很像那部电影中的很多人 You look like a lot of those guys in that movie.
是的 谢谢 Yeah. Thanks.
知道吗 那是我最不喜欢的连姆·尼森电影 You know, that was my least favorite Liam Neeson movie.
太郁闷了 Huge downer.
那是部很悲伤的电影 It was a really sad movie.
泰 我知道你现在很痛苦 Ty, I know that you're in a lot of pain.
噢 是的 先生 我们都是 Oh, yes, sir. We both are.
而且你有太多的愤怒 And you have a lot of anger.
该死的 我在请求你的帮助 Goddamn it, I'm asking you for your help.
如果我们不这样做 就等于在我们的 If we don't do this, it's like leaving her body
余生中都把她的尸体留在那片沙漠中 out in the middle of that desert for the rest of our lives.
我一看到你就知道了 I know it the minute I saw you.
因为心见心 'Cause heart sees heart.
留下来和我一起为艾比的死报仇 Stay down here and avenge Abby's death with me.
噢 那将是个怎样的故事 Oh, what a story that would be.
这是个误拨吗? Is this a pocket dial?
我有个故事 I have a story.
- 可以等等吗? - 不能 - Can it wait? - No.
我在德州 正在从一个葬礼回来的路上 I'm in Texas. I'm on my way back from a funeral.
噢 天哪 很抱歉 Oh, my God. I'm so sorry.
没关系 那不是我亲近的人 It's okay. It's not someone I was close to.
但你为此飞到了德州? But you flew to Texas for it?
呃 是的 Uh, yes.
呃 那是个我勾搭过几次的女孩 Uh, it was a girl I hooked up with a few times.
你飞到德克萨斯 You flew to Texas
去参加一个勾搭过几次的人的葬礼? to attend the funeral of a random hookup?
她的家人以为 我们是认真的 Her family thought that we were more serious than I did.
你知道吗? Do you know what?
这是个故事 This is a story.
- 是吗? - 是 - Yeah? - Yeah.
就是你 It's you.
是... 你的整个生活方式 The-the... Your whole way of life.
是约会 是勾搭文化 It's dating, it's hookup culture.
如何让它脱开连接 How it enables disconnectedness.
- 自私 - 不 - The selfishness. - No.
- 空虚 - 不 - The emptiness. - No.
- 空洞 - 这不是我的意思 - The hollowness. - That's not what I meant.
缺乏自我意识 The lack of self-awareness.
- 好吧 这不是我的观点 - 你的生活得有多悲哀 - Okay, that's not what I'm pitching. - It's really how sad your life is.
好吧 你在跟我开玩笑 Okay, now you're fucking with me.
听着 我在德州西部 Listen, I'm in West Texas
这个家庭刚刚因阿片类药物过量失去了他们的女儿 where this family just lost their daughter to an opioid overdose.
这很悲伤 但很常见 That is sad but common.
只是 她哥哥不愿意接受是用药过量 Except, her brother won't accept it's an overdose.
他说这是一起谋杀 He says it was a murder.
基于什么理由? Based on what?
什么都没有 Nothing.
而这就是故事 And that's the story.
这是个存在主义的犯罪故事 This is an existential crime story.
这就是“冷血” 但没有杀手 This is In Cold Blood, but there are no killers.
这是关于一个人们无法接受的新美国现实 This is about a new American reality that people can't accept.
相反的 他们发明了这些神话和阴谋 So instead, they invent these myths and conspiracies
因此他们可以把自己当成英雄 因为... so they can cast themselves as heroes because...
真相太难以接受 the truth is too hard to accept.
艾比琳的死亡是关于美国本体的死亡 The death of Abilene is about the death of American identity
以及需要找一个人对此负责 and the need to find someone to blame for it.
这不仅是一个关于复仇的故事 This isn't just a story about vengeance.
这是一个关于需要复仇的故事 It's a story about the need for vengeance.
复仇的意义 The meaning of vengeance.
死去的白人女孩? Dead white girl?
播客的圣杯 Holy grail of podcasts.
埃洛伊丝 我希望录音机已经打开了 Eloise, I wish my recorder were already on.
他已经在说很疯狂的话了 He's saying such crazy things already.
她哥哥? Her brother?
他就是这样一个人 He is such a character.
你还能和这家人接近吗? And you can get close to the family?
我还能接近这家人吗? Can I get close to the family?
他们认为我是她男朋友 They think I was her boyfriend.
我是说... I mean...
...看上帝份上 我参加了她的葬礼 ...I went to her funeral, for God's sake.
这很好 That's good.
我是说 这很糟糕 不过... I mean, it's fucked up, but...
但它对这个故事有好处 but it's good for this.
所以呢? So?
好吧 我们来试试 Okay, let's give it a shot.
噢 Oh!
好吧 跟我说说 都告诉我 Okay, talk to me. Give me everything.
和这家人待在一起 尽量亲近 记录每件事 Stay with the family, get as close as possible, record everything.
因为你永远不知道什么会是重要的 'Cause you never know what will be important.
我是你的编辑 所以我要挑选 I'll be your editor, so I'll pull selects
- 并看看会发生什么 - 好的 - and see what's there. - Okay.
我会让特蕾西晚上把设备寄给你 I'll have Tracy overnight you the equipment,
但在此期间只使用你的手机 but just use your phone in the meantime
了解故事 注意安全 and get the story, stay safe.
我知道了 You got it.
- 不是按这个顺序 - 按这个顺序 - Not in that order. - In that order.
德州西部的尘土像湖面上的雨水一样沉淀下来 The dust in West Texas settles like rain on a lake.
我在德州西部的天空下 明媚蓝色的德克萨斯天空 I'm under a West Texas sky, bright blue Texan sky,
在这里我刚刚得知艾比琳·肖的死讯 where I've just learned about the death of Abilene Shaw.
我的... My...
一个... A person...
...住在这里的人 ...who lived here.
太好了 兄弟 Hell yeah, brother.
好吧 All right.
我准备和你们一起待上几个星期 I'm gonna stay with you guys for a couple of weeks.
我将记录你们认为发生在艾比琳身上的所有事 I'm gonna record everything that you think happened to Abilene.
- 好吗? - 太好了 然后我们杀了他 - Okay? - Hell yes. Then we kill him.
不 No.
我要把它放到一个播客上... I'm gonna put it on a podcast...
...并在播客平台上播出 ...and it will be on podcast platforms.
这太他妈聪明了 That's fucking brilliant.
- 是啊 - 你真他妈聪明 - Yeah. - You're fucking smart.
好吧 All right.
一旦红迪上的人找出来... Once people on Reddit find out...
...他们会替我们杀了他 ...they'll kill him for us.
好吧 All right.
嘿 妈妈 Hey, Mama.
猜猜究竟是谁回来了 Guess who came back after all.
本 Ben.
- 你好 - 噢 天哪 你回来了 - Hi. - Oh, my God. You came back.
啊... 噢 谢谢 Ah... Oh. Thank you.
呃 我希望我没有添麻烦 Um, I hope I'm not imposing.
拜托 Please.
在桌子上还有个空位 We have this empty seat at the table.
任何能分心的事都对我们有好处 We can use all the distraction we can get.
我能为你提供什么吗? Can I get you anything?
呃... Um...
呃 就是 呃 Wi-Fi的状况如何? Uh, just, uh, what's the Wi-Fi situation?
噢 它有点脾气... 它会启动的 Oh, it's a little temperamental... it'll kick in.
你以前有机会认识大家吗? Did you have a chance to meet everybody before?
呃 没有 我很乐意认识 Uh, no. I would love to.
- 呃 这是艾比琳的妹妹 帕丽斯 - 嗨 - Uh, this is Abilene's sister, Paris. - Hi.
- 她24岁 马上就25岁了 - 是的 - She's 24, fixin' to be 25. - Yep.
她会成为一个著名电影制片人 She's gonna be a famous filmmaker.
很高兴认识你 帕丽斯 It is a pleasure to meet you, Paris.
很荣幸 我听说过很多你的事 Pleasure. I've heard so much about you.
我... 我听说... 是的 I've-I've heard... Yeah.
这是堪萨丝·西蒂 And this is Kansas City.
她今年17岁 快18岁了 She's 17, fixin' to be 18.
而且她会成为一个著名的... And she's gonna be a famous...
就是著名 Just famous.
KC 我告诉过你 KC, I told you.
那些不是我们的价值观 Those are not our values.
你必须成为一个著名的什么 You have to be a famous something.
一个著名的... A famous...
知名人士 celebrity.
这些真的是你的女儿吗? These are really your daughters?
我是说 你们都可以做姐妹了 I mean, you all could be sisters.
- 噢 你太会说话了 - 我看起来有那么老吗? - Oh. You are so sweet. - You think that I look this fucking old?
这是艾尔·斯蒂普多 And this is El Stupido.
- 叫啥? - 就是笨蛋 - Sorry? - This is El Stupido.
你们就这么叫他? That's what you call him?
噢 没事 本 Oh. It's okay, Ben.
他不懂西班牙语 He don't speak Spanish.
那么 呃 你多大了? And, uh, and how old are you?
九岁 Nine.
准备好十岁了吗? Fixin' to be ten?
是的 先生 Yes, sir.
孩子们 来吧 Boys, come on.
- 本 过来坐吧 - 谢谢你 - Ben, come take a seat. - Thank you.
顺便说句 你们有个可爱的家 You have a lovely home, by the way.
- 谢谢 - 这真的很好 - Thank you. - It's really nice.
- 这是卡洛尔奶奶 - 是的 - This is Granny Carole. - Yeah.
简称“奶奶” Granny for short.
- 呃 很高兴见到你 奶奶 - 嗯 - Um, nice to meet you, Granny. - Yeah.
谢谢你 呃... Thank you. Um...
那么 本 说说你自己 So, Ben, tell us about yourself.
你来自一个亲密的家庭吗? Do you come from a close family?
是的 呃 我们非常亲密 Yes. Um, we're very close.
我们不经常见面 但我们非常亲密 We don't see each other much, but we're very close.
你是德州人吗? You from Texas?
噢 不 我不是 Oh. No, I'm not.
噢 很抱歉 Oh, I'm sorry.
你不是德克萨斯人 That you're not from Texas.
- 你以前来过德克萨斯吗 本? - 来过 实际上 - Have you been to Texas before, Ben? - Yes, actually.
我去过奥斯汀 呃 是为“西南偏南” I've been to Austin, uh, for South By.
为了什么? For what?
呃 噢 “西南偏南”是一个年度庆典 Uh, oh, South by Southwest is an annual festiv...
不 为了什么乐队? No, for what band?
你不只是去“西南偏南” You don't just go to South By.
你去看一个乐队 不是吗? You go see a band, don't you?
呃 好吧 确实 Uh, well, true.
我是一个关于新媒体未来的新闻小组成员 I was part of a journalism panel about the future of new media.
- 真了不起 - 这太酷了 - Amazing. - That's so cool.
- 嗯 - 谢谢你 - 不客气 - Mm. - Thank you. - You're welcome.
呃 说起来 Um, speaking of.
你们介意我录下这顿晚餐吗? Would you mind if I recorded this dinner?
- 噢 - 现在给我们录音? - Oh. - Record us now?
- 是的 - 太好了 - Yeah. - Hell yeah.
我们会介意吗? Would we mind?
- 我喜欢被录音 - 很好 太棒了 - I love being recorded. - Great. Fantastic.
- 嘿 微笑 好吗? - 很好 - Hey, smile. Okay? - Great.
那么 你们想不想听德州的故事? Well, would you want to hear the story of Texas?
- 绝对想 - 讲吧 奶奶 - Absolutely. - Go, Granny.
好的 就在这里 All right. Right here.
- 我的天 - 嗯 好吧 - My goodness. - Mm. Okay.
1836年 1836.
德州是墨西哥的一部分 Texas is part of Mexico,
由定居者和讲英语的白人组成 made up of settlers and English-speaking white folk.
而且 呃 他们不喜欢政府 And, uh, they didn't like the government.
还有啥新的? What else is new?
德州人想用他们自己的方式做事 Them Texans wanted to do things their own way.
还有啥新的? What else is new?
所以 拿出每个人最喜欢的两样东西 So, you take everybody's two favorite things,
政府和墨西哥人 government and Mexicans.
你猜会发生什么 And guess what happens.
- 嗯? - 继续讲 - Huh? - Go on.
- 猜猜 - 还是... 您来讲吧 - Guess. - You should... In your words.
好吧 好的 All right. All right.
好吧 圣塔安纳将军 Well, Generalissimo Santa Anna
率领7千名墨西哥士兵 brung up 7,000 Mexican soldiers
在一个叫阿拉莫的地方与 to fight against 186 Texan rebels
186名德克萨斯叛军作战 at a place called the Alamo.
而德克萨斯人赢了 And the Texans won.
这非常鼓舞人心 That's very inspiring.
说啥呢? Say what?
德克萨斯人没有赢 本 The Texans didn't win, Ben.
嗯 Mm.
你们那里有教数学吗? They teach math where you from?
186 7000 186. 7,000.
呃... Um...
7千更多 本 7,000 is more, Ben.
那是一场大屠杀 It was a massacre.
是无法形容的残忍 It was unspeakable cruelty.
无法形容的残忍 Unspeakable cruelty.
很抱歉 我不知道你们在阿拉莫没有赢 I'm sorry. I had no idea you didn't win the Alamo.
呃... Um...
我觉得你们经常讨论这个 I feel like you guys talk about it a lot.
谁是“可爱的春分女孩”? Who's "Equinox Girl Cute"?
呃 一个朋友 Um, a friend.
谁是“巴黎评论派对亚裔”? Who's "Paris Review Party Asian"?
- 请原谅 呃... - 你读得很好 - Excuse me. Um... - Very good reading.
让我 呃... Wi-Fi肯定刚启动 Let me, uh... The Wi-Fi must have just kicked on.
谁是“娜塔莉·班布尔”? Who's "Natalie Bumble"?
- 呃 让我... - 谁是“凯蒂·拉亚”? - Um, let-let me just... - Who's "Katie Raya"?
- 让我把那个设为... - 拉亚? - Let me put that on... - Raya?
让我把它设为飞行模式 Let me put that on airplane mode.
我以为拉亚应该是独一无二的 I thought Raya was supposed to be exclusive.
那么你觉得这个地方怎么样 本? So what do you think of this place, Ben?
我喜欢它 I love it.
- 你在开玩笑吗? - 你认真的吗? 你喜欢它吗? - Are you joking? - Are you serious? You love it?
你来自纽约城 You're from New York City.
- 这里平淡无奇 - 是的 - Literally nothing happens here. - Yeah.
好吧... 我是说 这有点... Well, um... I mean, it is a little...
- 嗯? - 知道吗 - Hmm? - You know.
- 无望 - 拜托 这不公平 - Bleak. - Come on, that's not fair.
- 我们刚有了一个目标 - 你说什么? 你怎么敢? - We just got a Target. - Excuse me? How dare you?
你知道我们的足球队有他妈多好吗? Do you know how fucking good our football team is?
- 这是我们的镇 - 好吧 听着 我不知道在这里... - This is our town. - Okay, look, I don't know where to...
该从哪里入手 呃... where to land here. Um...
本 关于这个地方 你可能应该 Ben, there's probably something you should know
- 知道一些事 - 是的 - about this place. - Yeah.
这是最 呃 最可怜的 This is the most, uh, wretched,
是地球上被上帝抛弃的一片土地 godforsaken stretch of land on the face of the earth.
但我永远不会离开 And I'd never leave.
知道我的意思吗? You know what I mean?
知道 这也是我对推特的感觉 Yeah. That's how I feel about Twitter.
- 嗯 - 看 本是个记者 - Mm. - See, Ben's a journalist.
是最好的之一 One of the finest there is.
他为《纽约杂志》撰稿 He writes for the New York Magazine.
是《纽约客》 New Yorker. Yep.
他将帮助我们找出 And he's gonna help us find out
艾比琳到底发生了什么 what really happened to Abilene.
我说过我们找出后用点45手枪解决 I was saying we go out and settle with a .45,
但本对这种情况提出了一个全新的方法 but Ben gives a whole new perspective to the situation.
泰 你不能用点45枪解决这件事 Ty, you can't solve something like this with a .45.
这不是一个人那么简单 It's not as simple as one person.
这是个完整的系统 孩子 It's a whole system, son.
告诉我们你的意思 奶奶 Tell us what you mean, Granny.
这是社会的崩溃 就是这样 It's the breakdown of society, is what it is.
这是学校系统 政府的 It's the breakdown of the school system,
- 崩溃 - 嗯 - the government. - Mm.
这是制药公司的问题 It's the pharmaceutical companies.
这是家庭的和传统的 It's the breakdown of the family
崩溃 and tradition.
噢 有一大堆人要为发生在 Oh, there's a whole lot of people responsible
- 艾比琳身上的事负责 - 确实是 - for what happened to Abilene. - That's true.
- 是的 奶奶 - 阿门 - Yes, ma'am. - Amen.
我认为这非常明智 I think that's very wise.
你需要一把12毫米口径的枪 几把AR You're gonna need a 12-gauge, couple of ARs.
- 不 - 是的 - 韦森自动手枪 - No. - Yep. - A Wesson automatic.
- 不 不 - 还要一把备用武器防身 - No, no, no. - And a sidearm for safety.
- 是的 正确 - 我们没有这样做 - Yep. Exactly. - We're not doing that.
噢 我们没有吗? 是的 Oh, we're not? Yeah.
我不认为你有这个胆量 I didn't think you had the balls.
你会帮助我们吗 本? Are you gonna help us, Ben?
知道吗 呃... You know, um...
有一些事情我很擅长 There's some things I'm good at.
我很善长问正确的问题 I'm good at asking the right questions.
我很擅长与人交谈 I'm good at getting people to talk.
而且我特别擅长在看似不同的 And I'm especially good at drawing thematic connections
元素之间建立主题联系 between seemingly disparate elements
并利用这一点来阐明 and using that to illustrate
一个更大的观点或理论 a larger point or theory.
因此 不管是谁或什么 So, whoever or whatever
对发生在艾比琳身上的事负责 is responsible for what happened to Abilene,
我都会找到这个人 I will find this person
或这种普遍性的社会力量 or this generalized societal force,
并由我来界定它 and I will define it.
我来界定它 I'll define it.
祝福你 Bless your heart.
我想我们现在有个客房了 I guess we have a guest room now.
泰 Ty.
好吧 好好休息 Well, rest up good.
我们在早上见面并开始解决这个问题 We'll meet in the morning and start to solve this.
行 Yeah.
明早见 See you in the morning.
- 晚安 泰 - 晚安 - Good night, Ty. - Good night.
链式保管
给你快递了一些设备 应该隔夜就到 如有问题请告知
嗨 我又打扰你了吗?
没有 我在写东西 怎么了?
- 听过这首歌吗? 点击它 - 你的声音听起来总是很棒
- 网络不好 但听来不错 - 修一下你的WIFI 你的连接总是...
- 你会听吗? - 我会 我得走了 吻你
昆汀卖家工厂 页面未找到
约翰: 今天来吗? 老地方
输入密码
早上好 Good morning.
是的 就这些了 还有什么...? Yeah, that's it. What else...?
- 我能说它证明了很多吗? - 是的 - Can I say it proves a lot? - Yeah.
我想在这里短暂休息下 I'm gonna take a short break here,
在这个休息期间 我希望你能在这个 and during this break, I hope you'll call
漫长而重要的会员活动中打电话 and support this station during this long, important
- 支持本台 - 谢谢 - membership drive. - Thanks.
我们有些很棒的免费礼物提供给你 We have some great free gifts to offer you,
而且我不只是指咖啡杯 and I'm not just talking coffee mugs.
好吧 本 这里真的有两种方式的生活 Well, Ben, there's really two versions of life out here.
繁荣时期 每个人都很有钱 很忙 Boom times, everybody's rich and busy.
就像一个大派对 It's like one big party out here.
接着萧条就来了 And then the bust comes.
这真的像两个不同的地方 It's really like two different places out here.
它总是繁荣或萧条 It's always boom or bust.
现在是哪种情况? Which is it right now?
介于两者之间 Kinda in between.
是的 Yeah.
说实话 有点介于两者之间 Kinda in between, to tell you the truth.
好的 Okay.
你这个混... You son of a...
- 滚开 - 克劳尔 我们的胆小鬼 - Get off. - Crawl. There's our worm.
噢 你喜欢在上面 Oh, you like being on top.
- 滚开 行了 - 喔 - Get off. Yeah. - Whoo!
是这个人吗? This the guy?
是的 Yep.
嗯 Hmm.
我来帮你省点时间 桑乔洛 Let me save you some time: Sancholo.
桑乔洛 桑乔洛 Sancholo. Sancholo.
什么桑乔洛? What's Sancholo?
杀害艾比琳的那个人 The guy who killed Abilene.
一个墨西哥毒贩 A Mexican drug dealer.
邪恶的混蛋 Evil motherfucker.
你叫得出名字 他就找得到 You name it, he's got it.
但我不喜欢他的价格 Not crazy about his prices though.
那么 你知道是谁杀了艾比琳吗? So, you know who killed Abilene?
知道 先生 Yes, sir.
你有没有为此事报警? Did you call the police about it?
迈克和丹? Mike and Dan?
这些懒惰的混蛋 Those lazy fucktards.
他们把一切都说成意外 Everything's an accident.
枪支意外 Gun accident.
呃 驾驶意外 Uh, driving accident.
从我们年轻时 I've known Abilene
我就认识艾比琳了 since we were knee-high to a grasshopper.
她从来没有碰过那么多布洛芬 She never touched so much as an Advil,
然后 突然之间 and-and then, out of the blue,
他们发现这个天使 这个天使 they find this angel, this angel,
在他办的一个聚会上 因用药过量而死亡 dead of an oxy OD at a party he threw!
噢 你让我快发现目标了 Ooh, you're getting me warmed up.
他从中学开始就迷上了她 He's been obsessed with her since middle school.
是的 他每晚都会给家里打电话 Yep. He'd call the house every night.
他们曾经在电话里聊好几个小时 They used to be on the phone for hours.
总之他就是其中一部分 He's just a piece of it anyway.
这件事大到无法搞清 It's too big to understand.
你知道了深层政府与医生 卡特尔 恋童癖同流合污 You got deep state in bed with pill pushers, cartels, pedos.
- 法律 - 怎样 什... - The law. - How, wha...
嘿 嘘 嘿 Hey, shh. Hey.
而你也是其中的一员 And you're a piece of it, too.
所以 呃 我很想谈谈你提到的一些人物 So, um, I'd love to talk to some of the characters you mentioned.
迈克和丹? 桑乔洛? Mike and Dan? Sancholo?
噢 他们将参加霍利斯顿的牛仔竞技 Oh, he's gotta be at the rodeo in Holliston.
毫无疑问 No doubt.
在那之后 他们会去酒吧 There and the honky-tonk, too, afterwards.
- 那是毒贩生意最好的地方 - 嗯 - That's where a drug dealer can do their best business. - Mm.
因为大家都会去看牛仔竞技 'Cause everybody goes to the rodeo.
白人 墨西哥人 White, Mexicans.
你真的想和他一起为她报仇? You really want to avenge her with him?
我就像你的兄弟一样 I'm like a brother to you.
好吧 他就像一个妹夫 Well, he's like a brother-in-law.
噢 拜托 Oh, come on.
本 你以前打过架吗? Ben, you ever been in a fight?
你是说像那种肉搏 You mean like a physical fight
还是像个网上小冲突? or like an online skirmish?
我吓到他了 I got him.
克劳尔不会伤害一只苍蝇 是吗 克劳尔? Crawl wouldn't hurt a fly, would you, Crawl?
我从不理解那种关于苍蝇的说法 I never understood that expression about flies.
是的 我会杀一只苍蝇 Yeah, I'd kill a fly,
但什么样的病态会伤害一只苍蝇? but what kind of sick fuck would hurt a fly?
让它感到痛苦? 嗯? Make it feel pain? Hmm?
你根本不知道你在哪里 You don't have any idea where you are,
是吗? do you?
嗯? Hmm?
要我给你看张地图吗? Want me to show you a map?
欢迎来到德州 Welcome to Texas.
你在这里 You are here.
早上好 KC Morning, KC.
嘿 Hey.
呃 你喜欢喝咖啡吗? Uh, would you like some coffee?
- 当然 - 你怎么喝? - Sure. - How do you take it?
用嘴? In the mouth?
好吧 说说你们 All right, tell me something
喜欢的一些本地东西 that you love about where you live.
- 浩德汉堡 - 喔 - Whataburger! - Whoo.
- 噢 - 是的 - 好 太棒了 - Oh. - Yeah. - Okay, great.
呃 跟我说说 Um, tell me about it.
- 你们想现在就去吗? - 是的 走吧 - You want to go right now? - Yeah, let's go.
- 呃... - 我准备好了 - Uh... Uh... - I'm ready.
- 你想... - 只是 不 只是跟我说说 - You want... - Just, no, just, uh, tell me about it.
你会爱上浩德汉堡的 本 You're gonna love Whataburger, Ben.
- 噢 它是最好的 - 它为啥是最好的? - Oh, it's the best. - What makes it the best?
无论你在哪里 都有一家浩德汉堡 Wherever you are, there's a Whataburger.
是的 它总是在那里 Yeah. It's always right there.
好的 然后当你到那里时 Okay. And then when you get there,
你喜欢它的什么? 有什么收获? what do you like about it? What do you get?
- 无论你想要什么 - 它总是在那里 - Whatever you want. - It's always right there.
你可以点任何想要的东西 本 You could order whatever you want, Ben.
没错 但有很多这样的地方 Right, but there are a lot of places like that.
所以 我们说有一家麦当劳 So, let's say there is a McDonald's,
一家汉堡王 一家声波和一家浩德汉堡 a Burger King, a Sonic and a Whataburger
全部一字排开 all lined up.
你去的是哪一家? Which one do you go to?
浩德汉堡 Whataburger!
对 对 为什么? Right, right. Why?
因为它就在那里 Because it's right there!
是的 但他们都在那里 Yes, but they're all right there.
在这种情况下 他们都在那里 In this scenario, they're all right there.
那么 你从浩德汉堡中得到了什么? So, what do you get out of Whataburger?
对你来说 是什么让它更好? What makes it better to you?
- 你得到什么... - 本 - What are you getting... - Ben.
问你为什么喜欢浩德汉堡 Asking why you love Whataburger
就像问你为什么喜欢圣诞节 is like asking why you love Christmas
或夏日的夜晚 或你为什么喜欢你的狗 or a summer night or why you love your dog.
我是说 你可以指出其中的原因 I mean, you could point to the reasons,
但原因并不是真正的重点 but the reasons aren't really the point.
你就是喜欢它 这就是喜欢在起作用 You just love it, and that's how love works.
租赁合同
我正在去寻找 I'm on my way to get
一些不错的地方特色的路上 what could be some good local color.
是艾比琳录制演示片的地方 It's the place Abilene recorded some demos.
我正前往昆汀·塞勒斯音乐工厂 I'm heading towards the Quentin Sellers Music Factory.
艺术之乡马尔法的一个地方 在那里... A place in Marfa, the arts town, where...
人们追逐他们的音乐明星梦 people pursue their dreams of musical stardom.
他的座右铭是“从2018年起让梦想成真” His motto is "making dreams come true since 2018."
埃洛伊丝 如果你有 呃... 如果你能播放一段 Eloise, if you have, um... if you can play a clip of that,
丽贝卡·布莱克的歌“星期五” um, Rebecca Black song, "Friday,"
那会是非常有趣的事 that would be really funny here.
我打赌播这个很便宜 I bet it's cheap to play.
♪ 耶 耶 ♪ ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
♪ 耶 ♪ ♪ Yeah ♪
好的 Okay.
- 嗨 - 嗨 - Hi. - Hi.
什么是音乐? What is music?
比如唱歌之类的 Like, singing and stuff.
是的 没错 Yeah, that's right.
让我们后退一步 Let's take a step back.
我想和你分享一个想法 I want to share an idea with you.
没有什么是比宇宙是 There's no argument more profound
如何产生的更深刻的论点了 than how the universe came into existence.
- 噢 上帝 - 我们在这里是因为上帝还是科学? - Oh, God. - Are we here because of God or science?
我是说 其本质而言 I mean, it is, by its very nature,
这是最基本的问题 the most fundamental question.
但有件事是大家都同意的 But there's one thing that everyone agrees on.
那就是 无论是上帝宣布 And that is whether it was God declaring,
“要有光” "Let there be light,"
还是在大爆炸中迸发 or an infinite particle of energy
出来的无限能量粒子 bursting forth in the big bang.
每个人 Everyone,
我是说每个人 and I mean everyone,
都同意宇宙 agrees that the universe
始于声音 started with a sound.
为什么我称自己为唱片制作人? Why do I call myself a record producer?
我不知道 I don't know.
是的 我是说 我们甚至不再做唱片了 Yeah, I mean, we don't even make records anymore.
我们在这里录制的并不是你的录音 What we're recording here isn't your record.
这是你在... It's your sound...
录制中的声音 on the record that started
从最初的时间点开始 with the very first moment in time.
所以当你唱这首歌时... So when you sing this song...
... 我想让你想想 你所做的是 ...I want you to think about how what you're making
你在这个地球上的时间记录 is the record of your time here on this earth.
这是你用你的生命 It's the sound that you scratch
在宇宙的记录上... with your life...
...擦划出的声音 ...on the record of the universe.
- 好吗? - 好的 - Okay? - Okay.
是的 Yeah.
谢谢你 Thank you.
我把这地方称为“工厂” I call this place the Factory.
- 你知道 在安迪·沃霍尔工厂之后 - 嗯 - You know, after Andy Warhol's Factory. - Hmm.
这里的大多数人认为这是对 Most people around here think it's a reference
C+C音乐工厂的参照 to C+C Music Factory.
老实说 我觉得沃霍尔会喜欢的 但是... Which, honestly, I-I think Warhol would've loved, but...
是的 实际上会的 Yeah, actually. Yeah.
我是从这里出来的 I'm from out here.
我在纽黑文上的大学 I went to college in New Haven.
噢 我在波士顿上的学 Oh, I went to school in Boston.
是的 我想过要留在那里 Yeah, I thought about staying there,
但这个地方需要这样的东西 but this is the place that needs something like this.
问题并不在于人们不聪明 The problem isn't that people aren't smart.
问题是 他们本来就这样 The problem is that they are.
如果情况是这样的 If the landscape is like this,
人们只是无聊 你就不会有这个问题了 a-and people were just boring, you wouldn't have this problem.
问题是 你得到所有这些明亮的 有创意的灯 The problem is, you get all these bright, creative lights
但却没有可以插电源的地方 and nowhere to plug in their energy.
因此 它被引向阴谋论 And so it gets channeled into conspiracy theories
以及毒品和暴力 and drugs and violence.
你现在最喜欢的音乐艺术家是谁? Who are your favorite music artists right now?
呃... Um...
- 我可以猜猜吗? - 可以 - Can I take a guess? - Yeah.
你播放列表中那些人 You're a playlist guy.
这什么意思? What does that mean?
当电脑根据你的喜好向你 When some computer recommends you a bunch of songs
推荐一堆歌曲 又根据你对 based on your favorites, and a bunch more
- 这些歌曲的喜爱推荐了一堆 - 对 - based on your favorites of those. - Right.
所以你在听一堆的音乐 So you're listening to a bunch of music that,
- 我是说 你真的喜欢... 是的 - I mean, you genuinely like... - Yeah.
...但你不知道是谁唱的 ...but you have no idea who sings it.
现在 这些播放列表 就像音乐的约会程序 Now, these playlists, it's like the dating app for music.
你没有听到其他人的声音 You're not hearing other people's voices.
你只是听到你的声音被回放给你听 You're just hearing your voice get played back at you.
你应该如何坠入爱河? How are you supposed to fall in love?
艺术曾经掌管着我们 Art used to be in charge of us.
你曾经买过一整张专辑 You used to buy a whole album
甚至不知道里面会有哪些歌曲 not even knowing what songs would be on it.
现在我们拥有一切所需的东西 Now we have everything on demand.
在你的指尖上 At your fingertips.
成片的 In pieces.
你觉得那些引用奥斯卡·王尔德语录的人中 You think half the people that are posting quotes
有一半人真的读过他的剧本吗? from Oscar Wilde have ever actually read one of his plays?
没有 No.
或者发奥黛丽·赫本的照片的 Or posting photos of Audrey Hepburn
实际上看过她的电影吗? have actually seen the film that it's from?
- 没有 - 不可能 对吗? - No. - Not a chance, right?
那是怎么回事 嗯? What is that about, huh?
这在文化上和在考古学上是一样的 It's the same in culture as it is in archaeology.
当一个文明崩溃时 When a civilization collapses,
只剩下最微小的碎片 only the tiniest fragments remain.
但我们可以把它重建回来 But we can build it back again.
怎么做? How?
制作录音 Make recordings.
真实的人 Real people.
不是人们以为他们已经知道并希望听到的 Not what people think that they already know and want to hear.
是真实的人 Real people.
不是些普通的模式化或普通的歌曲 Not some generic stereotype or generic song.
是真实的人 Real people.
这个播客到底是讲什么的? What's this podcast about anyway?
好吧 呃 是关于美国的 Well, um, it's about America.
好吧 Okay.
这是关于我们告诉自己的神话 It's about the myths that we tell ourselves.
是关于谁的? Who is it about?
我们所有的人 All of us.
我们讲的每个故事最后都是关于一个人的 Every story we tell is ultimately about a person.
艾比琳·肖 Abilene Shaw.
艾比琳 Abilene.
是的 Yeah.
你在做一个关于艾比琳的播客 You're making a podcast about Abilene.
嗯 是个关于艾比琳的小故事 Well, it's a little about Abilene.
- 我想让它更多的关于... - 不 - I'm trying to make it more about... - No.
是关于艾比琳 It's about Abilene.
这个人 The person.
这就是你所有需要 That's all you need.
你觉得她的音乐怎么样? What did you think about her music?
我还没有真正听过 I haven't really heard it.
闭嘴 Shut the front door.
- 我是说 我有... - 喔 喔 喔 等等 - I mean, I have... - Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
跟我来 Come with me.
它在这里 Here it is.
我们曾经录制的所有东西 Everything we ever recorded.
- 非常感谢 - 你会有收获的 - Thank you so much. - You're in for a treat.
她不是有个想当歌手的妹妹吗? Doesn't she have a sister who wants to be a singer?
想出名 Wants to be famous.
说明她知道自己是个人物 Means she knows she's somebody.
只是还不知道成为什么样的人物 Just doesn't know who yet.
她需要发现自己的声音 She needs to find her voice.
我的声音怎么样了? What about my voice?
我把你放在工作室里 你想做什么? I'll put you in the studio. What do you want to do?
我 知道吗... I-I, you know...
如果我来这里寻求我声音的建议 我的... If I came here for advice about my voice, my...
你知道 我的写作 我的播客 you know, my writing, my podcast,
你会告诉我什么? what would you tell me?
我可能会说 没有人写任何东西 I'd probably say that nobody writes anything.
我们所做的只是转化 All we do is translate.
因此 如果你遇到了困难 不知道该说什么 So if you ever get stuck and you don't know what to say...
...就倾听吧 ...just listen.
即使面对寂静 Even to the silences.
尽可能的倾听你周围的世界 并... Listen as hard as you can to the world around you and...
重复你所听到的 repeat back what you hear.
这个转化 That translation,
就是你的声音 that's your voice.
我得说 这和我的预期 I gotta say, this is not anything
完全不一样 like what I expected to find.
你来这里就为了笑话我 对吗? You came here to make fun of me, didn't you?
- 不 不 - 不 我知道这是... - No, no. No. - No, I get it's...
这是... 明白了 It's... I get it.
茫茫荒野中的唱片制作人 Record producer in the middle of nowhere.
你以为我会更傻 更微弱 You thought I'd be sillier, smaller.
我知道 I get it.
嘿 听着 Hey, look.
它已经在工作 It's already working.
你听到了 You listened.
你学到了 You learned.
欢迎来到德州 Welcome to Texas.
谢谢你 Thank you.
夕阳将德克萨斯州映照得一片火红 The setting sun sets Texas afire with a glow.
等等 等等 等等 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
真他妈漂亮 It's fucking beautiful.
哦 嗨 Well, hi.
谢谢 Thank you.
呃 当我告诉我妈妈我要去纽约 Uh, when I told my mama that I was gonna move to New York
并尝试在音乐上有所作为时 and try and make it in music,
她看着我 她只是说“祝福你” she looked at me and she just said, "Bless your heart."
这是德州的说法 即“去你的” Which is Texas for, "Fuck you."
爱你 妈妈 Love you, Mama.
啊... Ah...
你能帮我修枪吗? Will you help me unjam my gun?
我不知道怎么修 I don't know how to do that.
他们应该叫你笨蛋 They ought to call you El Stupido.
我可以睡地板吗? Can I sleep on your floor?
可以 Yeah.
当然了 Of course.
谢谢你 Thank you.
复仇是一种独特的现象 Vengeance is a unique phenomenon.
德克萨斯创造了复仇 Texas invented vengeance.
如果你想想 这毫无意义 It makes no sense if you think about it.
每种其它的人类原始本能 Every other primal human instinct
都会导致明显的进化奖励 leads to a clear evolutionary reward.
但复仇是不同的 But vengeance is different.
这与未来无关 It's not about the future.
这只关乎过去 It's only about the past.
当那场大屠杀发生时 我们没有退缩 When that massacre happened, we didn't retreat.
我们没有说“让我们都确保不会得墨西哥恐惧症” We didn't say, "Let's all make sure we don't get Mexiphobia."
我们说“记住阿拉莫” We said, "Remember the Alamo."
这与希望无关 It's not about hope.
这是关于遗憾 It's about regret.
艾比总是具有创造性的思维 Abby was always creatively minded.
她会和她的姐妹们一起制作影片 She would make movies with her sisters.
当然还有音乐 Music, of course.
噢 她的声音真好听 Oh, she had such a beautiful voice.
我真的希望更多的人能够听到它 I really wish more people could've heard it.
你是个作家 You're a writer.
有我知道的吗? Anything I'd know?
这些都不是 None of this.
你在这里看到的绝望 The desperation that you see around here,
并不是因为缺乏智慧或创造力 it's not from a lack of intelligence or creativity.
这是一种过度 It's an excess.
我们不是一个真正的枪支家庭 We're not really a gun family.
我们有几支步枪用来打靶 We have a few rifles for shooting targets,
几把手枪用于安全 还有... a couple handguns for safety, and...
- 而这与你无关吗? - 为什么会与我有关? - And that doesn't concern you? - Why would it concern me?
有个剧作家 安东·契诃夫 There's this playwright, Anton Chekhov,
他说 如果一出戏的第一幕里有枪的话... and he says that if there's a gun in act one of a play...
在我能想到的他任何一部剧中都没有枪 There's no guns in any one of his plays I can think of.
《樱桃园》没有 《万尼亚舅舅》没有 Cherry Orchard, no. Uncle Vanya, no.
其实我对他的剧作并不太熟悉 I'm not actually that familiar with his plays.
呃 我对他的理论比较熟悉 Uh, I'm more familiar with his theory.
但这些感觉的利害关系并不是假设的 But the stakes of these feelings aren't hypothetical.
它们都太真实了 They're all too real.
我是主持人 本·马纳洛维茨 来自美国广播集团 I'm your host, Ben Manalowitz, from American Radio Collective.
这是《死去的白人女孩》 This is Dead White Girl.
嘿 Hey.
所以 这很好 So, this is great.
真的吗? Really?
是的 Yeah.
我想更多的了解这个家庭 I'm, like, dorking out over this family.
他们的家人就像我的一样 Their family's like my family.
太好了 很好 Great. Great.
你有什么意见吗? Do you have any notes?
是的 我有两点 Yeah. I got a couple.
你不是说你喜欢它吗? Thought you said you loved it.
你问我是否有意见 我有 You asked if I had notes, and I got notes,
好吗 新人? okay, first-timer?
好的 好吧 好吧 你有什么意见? Okay. All right, all right, what do you got?
好吧 你抢别人的话 Okay, you're stepping on people's lines,
- 而我们需要录音干净 所以... - 好的 - and we need it clean, so... - Yep, yep.
就像你刚才这样 别这么做 Just like what you're doing right now. Don't do that.
好 Right.
在他们说话时不要插嘴 Don't talk while they're talking.
只是听... 或假装在听 Just listen... or pretend to listen.
好的 还有什么? Okay. What else?
还有你知道做什么有助于受访者吗? And you know what would help some people?
如果你... 如果你做 比如 无声的笑 If you... if you... if you do, like, a silent laugh
去鼓励他们 to egg them on.
知道吗 就像 呃... You know, like, um...
像什么? 我听不清 Like what? I lost you.
就像... 不 我正在做 Like... No, I'm doing it.
对 好吧 Right, okay.
你接下来要去哪里 竞技赛吗? Where are you going to next, the... the rodeo?
是的 我的首次竞技赛 Yep, my first rodeo.
我真的很兴奋 I'm really excited.
显然 这是一个真正的社会经济样本 Apparently, it's a real socioeconomic cross section.
是的 还有马和公牛什么的 Yeah, and horses and bulls and stuff.
你正在做吗? You're doing it?
是的 你看出来了? Yeah, could you tell?
祝好运 Good luck.
好的 本 All right, Ben.
- 你会喜欢这个地方的 - 是的 - You're gonna love this place. - Yeah.
有很多东西要看 很多东西要接受 A whole lot to see, lot to take in.
“第四届公牛狂欢牛仔竞技年会” "Fourth Annual Bull Bash Cowboy Protection."
牛仔竞技 呃 在德克萨斯牡蛎溪斗牛场 Cowboy protection for, uh, bullfighting in Oyster Creek, Texas.
酷 很好 Cool. Excellent.
而且 呃 你是个烧烤专家 And, uh, you're a pitmaster.
是的 先生 Yes, sir.
那么你成功的秘诀是什么呢? And what is the secret to your success?
时间和更多时间 Time and more time.
- ...中了 - 10分 - ...Bingo! - Ten points!
噢 太棒了 Oh, hell yes!
- 本 你会喜欢这个 - 好的 - Ben, you're gonna love this. - All right.
油炸夹心饼 Deep-fried Twinkies.
本 你得试试这个 Ben, you gotta try one of these.
- 你好 美女 - 噢 你好 - Hello, beautiful. - Oh! Hi.
能给我 呃 一 二 三 四 五个 Can I get, uh, one, two, three, four, five
油炸夹心饼吗? deep-fried Twinkies?
呃 能不能来一个烤的? Uh, can we get one of those grilled?
这太棒了 It's fucking good.
- 真的很棒 - 是的 - Fucking good. - Yeah.
只要保持低调 本 Just keep a low profile, Ben.
我们会找到要找的人 毫无疑问 We'll find our man. No doubt.
肯定的 Hundred percent.
女士们 先生们 小伙子姑娘们 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
欢迎来到霍利斯顿竞技赛 welcome to the Holliston Rodeo.
我们特别向我们的赞助商斯泰森能源公司问好 We say a special hello to our sponsors, Stetson Energy,
麦格恩能源公司 毅行者能源公司 McGuane Energy, Trailways Energy Company,
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以及昆汀·塞勒斯音乐工厂 and the Quentin Sellers Music Factory,
自2018年开始 让梦想成真 making dreams come true since 2018.
现在 举着德州六面美丽的旗帜 Now, carrying the six beautiful flags of Texas,
欢迎我们美丽的骑手 welcome our beautiful riders.
好的 本 All right, Ben.
德州的六面旗帜 The six flags of Texas
- 是德克萨斯曾属于的六个国家 - 好的 - are the six countries that Texas has belonged to. - Okay.
- 你能说出所有六个国家的名字吗? - 呃 美国 - Can you name all six? - Uh, the United States.
呃 法国 路易斯安那购置地 西班牙 Uh, France, Louisiana Purchase, Spain,
墨西哥 呃... Mexico. Uh...
呃... 德克萨斯共和国? Um, uh... Republic of Texas!
多少了 五个? What's that, five?
不错 兄弟 不错啊 Not bad, brother. Not bad.
没人能说出五个 Nobody ever gets five.
对 Right.
所以 六旗 主题公园... So Six Flags, the theme park...
完全正确 一家德克萨斯公司 Exactly. Is a Texas company.
没错 Right.
非常有意思 Very interesting.
现在 女士们 先生们 And now, ladies and gentlemen,
如果你是个真正的德州人 if you're a real Texan,
你知道当这首歌响起时该做什么 you know what to do when this song plays.
你只能用识歌软件去识别 Did you really just try to Shazam
- “在德克萨斯心脏深处”吗? - 呃... - "Deep in the Heart of Texas"? - Uh...
不是 No.
现在 女士们 先生们 这里有 Now, ladies and gentlemen, who here is a die-hard fan
德州大学的死忠粉吗? of the University of Texas?
喔 Whoo!
这里有谁是德州理工的粉丝呢? And who here is a fan of Texas Tech?
好吧 让我们听听双方的看法 Okay, let's hear from both sides.
UT粉丝能上前一步吗? Can we have the UT fan come down?
- 祝好运 兄弟 - 让他们去死吧 本 - Good luck, buddy. - Give them hell, Ben.
这是真的吗? 你们认真的吗... Is this for real? Are you seriou...
你觉得我们在开玩笑? Do you think we're joking?
让我们找一个德州理工的粉丝 And let's get a Texas Tech fan.
好吧 让我们从德州大学先生开始 Okay, let's start with Mr. University of Texas.
你叫什么名字 孩子? Now, what's your name, son?
本·马纳洛维茨 Ben Manalowitz.
什么来着? What the whosit?
那你做什么的 孩子? And what do you do, son?
英语中 "作家"和"骑手"发音相似
我是个作家 I'm a writer.
骑手? 你看起来不像骑手 A rider? You don't look like a rider.
你骑什么 孩子? What do you ride, son?
嗯? Huh?
好吧 有很多种类的骑行 Well, there's lots of kinds of riding.
你可以骑马 驾驶 开牵引机 You can ride horses, steer, tractors.
不 No.
我不是骑手 我是个作家 I'm not a rider. I'm a writer.
我是个作家 I'm a writer.
所以 像 你知道 呃... So, like, you know, uh...
当... 当你看到一本书或一本杂志时 when... when you come across a book or a magazine...
...甚至是你在网上看到的一篇文章 ...or even an article that you read online.
必须有人... Somebody has to...
必须真正思考这些词的含义... has to actually think about what those words...
我知道什么是作家 你这高高在上的混蛋 I know what a writer is, you condescending asshole.
好吧 告诉我 莎士比亚 Well, tell me, Shakespeare,
你喜欢德克萨斯大学的什么? what do you like so much about the University of Texas?
嗯 我喜欢它是一所州立学校 Well, I like that it's a state school.
因此 它给那些可能需要 So, it gives financial opportunities
帮助的当地人提供了财务机会 to local people who could use the help.
而且我知道 它有个非常好的电影部门 And I know that it has a very good film department.
一些毕业生包括 Some of the graduates include,
我相信有理查德·林克莱特 I believe, Richard Linklater.
呃 好吧 Uh-huh. Okay.
那你喜欢德州理工的什么呢? And what do you like about Texas Tech?
四分卫马特·哈里斯 Quarterback Matt Harris!
加油 Guns up!
欢迎来到德州 Repping Tech!
别担心这个 Don't worry about it.
- 没人会去想这个 - 是啊 - Nobody's thinking about it. - Yeah.
把它从脑子中抹掉 Erase it from your mind.
好好享受 Enjoy.
喔 扭起来 姑娘们 Whoo! Shake it, girls!
不是说你 KC Not you, KC.
她们怎么... How do they all...
都知道如何做同样动作...? know how to do the same...?
集体意识 Collective consciousness.
桑乔洛 Sancholo.
喔 喔 喔 Whoa, whoa, whoa!
- 你要去那里吗? - 是的 - You going over there? - Yeah.
你要我的枪吗? You want my gun?
你带有枪? You brought a gun?
我没有吗? 手机 钥匙 钱包 枪 Didn't I? Phone, keys, wallet, gun.
- 有 - 不 不 - Yeah. - No. No.
打扰下 你是桑乔洛吗? Excuse me, are you Sancholo?
我希望能和你谈谈 I was hoping to talk to you for a second.
你是警察吗? You a cop?
不是警察 Not a cop.
警察不需要说他是警察 Cop don't have to say he's a cop.
那你为什么要问? Then why did you ask?
- 对吗? - 因为你在浪费我的时间 - Right? - 'Cause you're wasting my time.
我想我也可以浪费你的 Figured I might as well waste yours.
听着 我是一名记者 Look, I'm a journalist.
我在做一个故事 I'm doing a story.
我真的只希望能问你几个问题 I was really only hoping to ask you a couple of questions.
- 我只是想... - 只是想做什么? - I'm just trying to... - Just trying to what?
- 你妈的凶手 - 嘿 泰 放松 - Fucking killer! - Hey, Ty. Relax!
伙计们 伙计们 伙计们 伙计们 Guys, guys, guys, guys. Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
对他宽容点 他刚失去妹妹 Go easy on him. He just lost his sister.
德州最美丽的女孩 Most beautiful girl in Texas.
所以我听到的是 她死在你的那个派对上 So what I heard was that you were at the party where she died.
我很走运 Lucky me.
她在我肩上咽下了 She took her last breath
最后一口气 on my shoulder.
我叫本·马纳洛维茨 My name is Ben Manalowitz.
正在做一个关于艾比琳的播客 I'm doing a podcast about Abilene.
我很想听听你对此的说法 I would love to hear your side of the story.
嘿 Hey.
我们这里有个普通的乔·罗根 We got a regular Joe Rogan here.
乔·罗根遇到塞斯·罗根 Joe Rogan meets Seth Rogen.
只是你 Just you.
在我上中学的时候 When I was in middle school,
我妈妈因为教会的原因不让我 my mom wouldn't let me read Harry Potter
读《哈利·波特》 because of church stuff.
所以我每晚都会给艾比打电话 So I would call Abby every night.
她会读给我听 She would read it to me.
我不知道是什么让她关心我 I don't know what made her care about me.
我当时想“为什么是我? I was like, "Why me?
我只是一个该死的辍学药商” I'm just an effing dropout drug dealer."
她会说“心见心” She'd say, "Heart sees heart."
对 Right.
她以前每天都用那部 She used to text that to me
傻傻的小刀锋手机给我发短信 every day on that dumbass little Razr phone.
- 你记得这些吗? - 是的 - You remember those? - Yeah.
545 5-4-5.
心见心 Heart sees heart.
这就像 她的小密码 It was, like, her little code.
我很想念她 I miss her so much.
你说她在你肩上咽下最后一口气 You told me that her last breath was on your shoulder.
而其他人告诉我 And other people told me
你在她死的地方举办聚会 that you threw the party where she died.
我根本没在那里 I wasn't even there.
好吧 Okay.
你在哪里? Where were you?
看看这个日期 Look at the date.
这是哪里? Where is this?
塔尔萨 我去见阿黛尔了 Tulsa. I went to see Adele.
我和我侄女去了那里 I was there with my niece.
她... 她喜欢她 She... She loves her.
阿黛尔? Adele?
显然 如果你告诉别人这件事 我就必须杀了你 Obviously, I'm gonna have to kill you if you tell anyone about that.
不 这... No, it's...
行 Yeah.
我服了你 I'm a fan.
所以... So...
你有不在场证明 you have an alibi,
但你想让人们认为是你杀了她? but you want people to think you killed her?
这些该死的卡特尔 天哪 These fucking cartels, man.
他们很快就会控制一切 They're gonna control everything pretty soon.
- 你是卡特尔的 - 不是 先生 - You're the cartels. - No, sir.
我讨厌说是我做的 It kills me to claim her,
但我也不知道 but I don't know.
如果他们不是真的认为我杀了人 If they don't actually think I killed someone,
那么我也许会杀人... then I might have to kill someone...
...来证明自己 ...to prove myself.
并不是真的要这样 是吗? That's not really how it works, is it?
这就是我听到的 It's what I heard.
在网上查一下 这不是真的 Go on Snopes. It's not a real thing.
你说什么? Excuse me?
我把这些拼凑起来 她用药过量... So, let me piece this together. She OD'd...
胡说啥? 我们在这里谈的是艾比 好吗? The fuck? This is Abby we're talking about here, okay?
她不愿碰这些东西 She wouldn't touch the stuff.
这姑娘不会碰布洛芬 Girl wouldn't touch an Advil.
听着 他们在离聚会两英里半的地方发现了她 Listen, they found her two and a half miles from the party,
一个所有死亡事件发生的地方 叫“余兴派对” at a spot where all the deaths happen called "the Afterparty."
你不可能就那么自己跑去 You don't just wander off like that by yourself.
得有人带你去那里 Someone takes you there.
这不是用药过量 This was no OD.
不可能 No fucking way.
都是谁参加这些聚会? Who goes to these parties?
每个人 Everybody.
- 大家都去了 没人离开 - 是的 - Everybody goes. Nobody went. - Yeah.
- 每次都是同一些人? - 是的 - Same people every time? - Yes.
下次是什么时候? When's the next one?
只要我想 随时都行 Whenever I want.
你还有11%的电 兄弟 You're at 11%, bro.
你也许想切换到省电模式 You might want to switch to low power mode.
谢谢 Thank you.
喂? Hello?
如果她是被谋杀的呢? What if she was murdered?
什么? What?
我们甚至没有考虑就否定了提出的第一种推测 We dismissed the first theory presented without even thinking about it.
如果我们不认真看待它们会怎样? What if we're not taking them seriously?
等等 所以你是说墨西哥毒贩干的? Wait, so are you saying the Mexican drug dealer did it?
绝对不是这样 Definitely not that.
但这是提出的第一种推测 But that was the first theory presented.
我只是确定不是那样 I'm just sure it wasn't that.
你为什么这么确定? Why are you so sure?
直觉 Gut.
- 直觉? - 听着 - Gut? - Look,
我们喜欢曾经拥有的东西 I know we liked what we had before.
一些关于美国 幻想 遗憾以及复仇的意义的事 Something about America and fantasy and regret and the meaning of vengeance.
不 不 这个... 这个更好 No, no. This... this is better.
这事变得越来越大了 This just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
对吗? Right?
好吧 Okay.
注意安全 Stay safe.
了解故事 Get the story.
不是按这个顺序 Not in that order.
不 按这个顺序 No. In that order.
你在看什么? What are you watching?
呃 艾比琳的视频 Um, videos of Abilene.
看见我手机了吗? Do you see my phone?
它是怎样的 像破裂了 How it's, like, cracked.
是的 Yeah.
它让我看起来就像我感觉的那样 It makes me look the way that I feel.
呃... Um...
我在哪里认识你的? Where do I know you from?
竞技场 Rodeo.
是长角队的球迷 It's the Longhorns fan.
确实 迈克 确实如此 Indeed it is, Mike. Indeed it is.
实际上 那是个误解 Actually, that was a misunderstanding.
很抱歉 我甚至不是个球迷 I'm sorry. I'm not even a football fan.
呃 我只是想融入 Um, I was just trying to fit in.
以一种有趣的方式融入 Funny way to fit in around here.
是这道理 Point taken.
我不知道那里还有另一个队 I didn't know there was gonna be another team.
我在为德克萨斯欢呼 I was cheering for Texas.
呃... Um...
我很想问你们几个有关艾比琳·肖之死的问题 I'd love to ask you a couple questions about the death of Abilene Shaw.
- 吸毒过量 - 意外 - OD'd. - Accident.
我知道那是官方报告 I know that was the official report.
我想知道 你们是否能与她死亡当晚 I was wondering, were you able to talk to anyone
在场的人谈谈? who was there the night she died?
你是否参加过在抽油机附近的聚会? You ever go to a party out by the pump jacks?
大家都去了 没人离开 Everybody goes and nobody was there.
我不在那里 I wasn't there.
我也不在那里 I wasn't there.
你究竟为什么如此感兴趣? Why are you so interested anyway?
你是她的 呃 男朋友还是什么? You her, uh, boyfriend or something?
呃 我们约出去过 Uh, we hung out.
是 是的 我是她男朋友 Yeah. Yeah, I was her boyfriend.
好吧 知道吗 90%的可能是男朋友干的 Well, you know, 90% of the time it's the boyfriend who did it.
好吧 我不是...我不是她真正的男朋友 Okay, I wasn't... I wasn't really her boyfriend.
他的故事开始听起来有点不一致了 His story's starting to sound a little inconsistent.
漏洞太多 Swiss cheese.
是的 呃 我不想在这里引起任何问题 Yeah, um, I'm not trying to cause any problems here.
我真的只是想帮助这个家庭 I'm really just trying to help the family.
知道吗 这甚至不是我们的管辖范围 You know, this isn't even our jurisdiction anyways.
派对发生在市范围之外 Party happened outside city limits.
- 嗯 - 那是县 不是市 - Mm. - That's county, not city.
- 县治安官 - 警长会谈的 - County sheriff. - Sheriff'll talk.
警长是个政治家 Sheriff's a politician.
当然是这样 Ain't that a fact.
我很想帮你 孩子 但我们的政策是我们不能评论 I'd love to help you, son, but our policy is we can't comment
我们的程序或案例 on our process or cases.
嗯 我正在为一个有数百万 Well, I was interviewing people for a podcast
听众的播客采访人们 that could be heard by millions of people.
但我想这不是一种可能 But I guess that's not a possibility.
这些是氧气丸 These are oxy sticks.
看到这些药丸都是方的吗? See how the pills are squared off?
这样 他们就可以把它们装在箱子里放到角落 That way, they can pack 'em in boxes to the corners
- 不浪费任何空间 - 嗯 - without wasting any space. - Mm-hmm.
这就是这门生意的规模 That's how big this business is.
我们不知道谁在运送它 We don't know who's shipping it.
我们所知道的是他们正沿着边境的 All we know is they're coming along the interstate
州际公路过来 right along the border.
这条线路正好经过举办派对的油田 And that route cuts right by the oil field where the party was.
是县里最常见的用药过量地点 The most common overdose spot in the county.
我们叫它“余兴派对” We call it "the Afterparty."
很常见的事 说起来可悲 Very common thing, sad to say.
这里是什么? What's this right here?
看起来像两对鞋印 Looks like two pairs of prints.
牛仔靴 Cowboy boots.
发出全境通告 寻找两名穿牛仔靴的男子 Calling out an APB to find two men wearing cowboy boots.
- 好吧 - 怎么了? - Okay. - What the fuck?
算了吧 Stand down.
孩子 我希望你一切顺利 真的 Son, I wish you well, I really do.
并祝福你的小心脏 And bless your little heart,
但这甚至不是我们的管辖范围 but this ain't even our jurisdiction, though.
- 不是吗? - 不是 先生 - It's not? - No, sir.
这是在高速公路沿线 This was along the highway.
你要和公路巡逻队谈谈 You want to talk to highway patrol.
好吧 这就像一个爱踢皮球的警长把你 Well, ain't that just like a sheriff to puff his hot air
直接踢到我办公室来了 and blow you straight into my office.
如果29号在一个在场地聚会上 If there's a drug overdose at a party
出现用药过量的情况 in some fucking field off 29,
很遗憾 但我们还有事要做 I'm sorry, but we got shit to do.
我们不是一群只是凝视着格兰德河的军队弃儿 We're not a bunch of Army rejects just gazing at the Rio Grande.
- 我从未说过你们是 - 我不是在说我们 - I never said that you were. - I wasn't talking about us.
噢 这就是他们在公路巡逻队告诉你的吗? Oh, is that what they told you over at highway patrol?
好吧 你可以去告诉小布朗 Well, you can go tell Junior Brown
和他们其余那些荣耀的咪表女郎 and the rest of them glorified meter maids
如果他们能多花点时间用真枪 that if they spent more time with their real guns
少用点雷达枪 and less with their radar guns,
我们就不必横跨佩科斯河来回追捕 we might not have to chase the goddamn Texas syndicate
那该死的德州集团了 up and down the Trans-Pecos!
明白了吗? Got it?
是的 如果我能找到一种 Yes. If I find a natural way
把这些融入与他们对话中的方式 to work that into the conversation with them,
我会这么做 I will do that.
- DRT - DRT - DRT. - DRT.
- DRT - 死在那里 - DRT. - Dead right there.
执法部门根本没有提供任何帮助 Law enforcement was no help at all.
你在下面学到了很多东西 不是吗? You're learning a lot down there, aren't you?
谋杀或吸毒过量发生在很多 The murder or overdose happened where a lot
类似事件发生的地方 of these things happen.
在四个重叠管辖区的交汇处 At the intersection of four overlapping jurisdictions.
于是他们都把它踢给了对方 So they all kicked it to each other.
概率是多少? What are the odds?
好的 我要和团队一起 Okay, I'm gonna kick this around
讨论一下 再摇一摇博格板 with the team for a little bit, shake up the Boggle board,
然后我就去找罗宾 看看她的想法 and then I'm gonna hit up Robin to get her thoughts.
好的 谢谢你 埃洛伊丝 谢谢大家 All right. Thanks, Eloise. Thanks, everybody.
- 再见 本 - 再见 本 - Bye, Ben. - Bye, Ben.
呃 你们可能甚至不会看这个 Um, you're probably not even gonna watch this,
但我回到德克萨斯州的家中 感到很无聊 but I'm back home in Texas, and I'm bored.
这是我的小兄弟 梅森 This is my little brother, Mason.
因为他害怕鬼魂 He sleeps on my floor
睡在我的地板上 because he's afraid of ghosts.
我试图告诉他 And I tried to tell him
没有鬼魂这回事 但不管怎样 there's no such thing as ghosts, but whatever.
这让他和我很亲近 It keeps him close to me.
所以我想在这里也不全是坏事 So I guess it's not all bad being here.
这个 呃... That's, um...
好 就这样吧 Well, that's it.
梅森 Mason.
什么 先生? Yes, sir?
只是说声晚安 Just saying good night.
你叫醒我只是为了说晚安? You woke me up just to say good night?
是的 先生 Yes, sir.
我很喜欢你 I love you mucho.
集体意识 Collective consciousness.
如果每个人都相信同样的事... If everyone believes the same thing...
...但没有任何事实支持 ...but without any facts to support it,
我们是相信这种直觉还是否定它? do we listen to that intuition or dismiss it?
用药过量? An overdose?
女孩一生中从未服用过如此多的布洛芬 Girl never took so much as an Advil in her life.
她从来没有碰过那么多的布洛芬 She never touched so much as an Advil.
你去参加过抽油机附近的聚会吗? You ever go to a party out by the pump jacks?
- 大家都去了 - 没人离开 - Everybody goes. - Nobody went.
我不在那里 I wasn't there.
问题是你有所有这些明亮 The problem is you get all these bright,
创造性的灯光 却没有插电源的地方 creative lights and nowhere to plug in their energy.
因此 它被引向阴谋论 And so it gets channeled into conspiracy theories
毒品和暴力 and drugs and violence.
我来这里 想知道为什么悲伤的人 I came here to find out why people in grief
会选择相信一个神话 would choose to believe a myth.
我不知道这一切是如何联系起来的 I don't know shit about how this all connects,
但你敢打赌它确实如此 but you bet your ass it does.
MS-13: 来自萨尔瓦多的帮派 拉利内阿: 华雷斯卡特尔的主要派系
MS-13? 拉利内阿? MS-13? La Línea?
是的 我对拉利内阿很熟悉 Yeah, I'm familiar with La Línea.
他们去年实际上谋杀了41名记者 They actually murdered 41 journalists last year.
噢 他们也做过坏事 Oh, they've done bad things, too.
但现在我发现自己想知道 But now I find myself wondering
这种直觉中可能包含多少真相 how much truth might be embedded in that intuition.
你不会碰巧知道她的手机密码吧? You don't happen to know her phone password, do you?
把它拿到该州每个极客小组 Took it to every Geek Squad in the state.
这是不可能破解的 It's impossible to crack.
- 这不归我们管 - 你找错了部门 - This ain't us. - You got the wrong department.
- 公路巡逻队 - 迈克和丹 - 边境巡逻队 - Highway patrol. - Mike and Dan. - Border patrol.
- 治安部门 - 你要找的是县 - Sheriff's department. - You want county.
在德克萨斯 每件事都很重要 Everything's bigger in Texas,
包括你的期望和它的现实 including your expectations and its reality.
我是主持人 本·马纳洛维茨 I'm your host, Ben Manalowitz,
来自美国广播集团 and from American Radio Collective,
这里是阿比林 this is Abilene.
嘿 Hey.
猜猜看 谁在线? Guess who's on the line.
嘿 我是罗宾 Hey. It's Robin.
我制作《美国时刻》 I produce American Moment.
是的 我知道你是谁 Yeah. I-I know who you are.
这 呃... 很高兴见到你 罗宾 It's-it's, um... It's great to meet you, Robin.
- 你好吗? - 很高兴与你交谈 - How are you? - Great to talk to you.
我喜欢你在《死去的白人女孩》中的表现 I love what you're doing with Dead White Girl.
谢谢你 非常感谢 Thank you. Thank you so much.
埃洛伊丝建议我们使用一些故事 Eloise pitched that we use some of the story
作为《美国时刻》的一个部分 as a segment on American Moment,
而这将有助于推广你的系列 and that would help promote your series.
哇 所以它会上《美国时刻》 Wow. So it'd be on American Moment.
你所采集的一切都很好 Everything you're getting is great.
这些人物都太棒了 The characters are amazing.
对 不 我是说这些人物是难以置信的 Yeah. No, I mean, the characters are unbelievable.
泰就是个十足的暴脾气 Ty is just a total firecracker.
而奶奶应该有她自己的节目 And Granny deserves her own show.
然后是艾比琳 我是说... And then Abilene, I mean...
越多的人听到她的声音 The more people hear her voice,
人们就越是会喜欢上她 the more they're gonna fall in love with her.
所以 如果你觉得可以让内容更紧凑些 So if you think you can tighten up what you have,
我们可以把它纳入周日的剧集中 we can work it into Sunday's episode.
是的 我... 绝对 Yeah. I... Absolutely.
很乐意 I'd love to.
哇 是的 是 我可以做到 Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I can do that.
能问问你在吃什么吗? Can I ask what you're eating?
这是 呃 菲力多派 This is, um, Frito pie.
听起来不错 It's great sound.
那是什么? What is that?
呃 菲力多派 Uh, Frito pie
是人们把菲力多和辣椒混合在一起 is when they cut open a bag of Fritos and they pour chili in it.
然后从袋子中叉着吃 Then you eat it out of the bag with a fork.
呃 真是受不了 Ugh. That is disgusting.
是啊 要看好的一面 Yeah, in a good way.
本 你在吗? Ben, are you there?
本 你掉线了吗? Ben, did I lose you?
用药过量? 别迟疑 立即用纳洛酮治疗
你怎么了 孩子? What happened to you, son?
我的普锐斯爆炸了 My Prius exploded.
嗯 Mm-hmm.
噢 谢天谢地 你还好吗? Oh, thank heavens. Are you all right?
嘿 Hey.
- 是的 噢 看看这个 - Yeah. - Oh, look at that.
- 噢 嘿 - 怎么了? - Oh, hey. - What happened?
- 我很好 - 他的车爆炸了 妈妈 - I'm fine. - His car blew up, Mom!
噢 这简直太糟了 这... Oh, it's so fucked up! This...
- 泰勒·克莱顿 - 抱歉 - Tyler Clayton! - Sorry.
我们非常庆幸你没事 We're just so grateful you're all right.
噢 天哪 如果你开的是辆用汽油的真汽车呢? Oh, my God. What if you were driving a real car with gas and stuff?
是的 Yeah.
本 这是个信息 我们正在接近真相 Ben, this is a message that we're getting close.
要么是孩子们在乱玩坦纳利特炸药 Or it's kids fucking around for no reason with Tannerite.
我不敢相信你们都来了 I can't believe you're all here.
不然我们会在哪里? Well, where else would we be?
来吧 姑娘们在车里等着呢 Come on. The girls are waiting in the car.
走吧 Let's go.
- 嘿 你瘸了吗? - 没有 - Hey, are you limping? - No.
你确定没瘸吗? You sure about that?
- 走吧 妈妈 - 是啊 他的脸看起来还好 - Come on, Mama. - Yeah. His face looks all right.
- 他会没事的 - 是的 我见过更糟的 - He's gonna be all right. - Yeah, I seen worse.
来吧 兄弟 Come on, buddy.
- 都还好吗? - 很好 - How is everything? - So good.
这是我们的朋友本 This is our friend Ben.
这是他第一次来浩德汉堡 And this is his first time at Whataburger.
- 让我们干杯 - 谢谢你 - Let's have a toast. - Thank you.
- 敬本 - 来吧 敬本 - 敬本 - To Ben. - Come on, to Ben. - To Ben.
- 浩德汉堡 - 敬好奶昔 - Whataburger. - To a good milkshake.
- 哦哈 - 在那里 - Whoopah. - Over there.
谢谢 Thanks.
那么 你怎么看? Well, what do you think?
我喜欢这个 I love this.
是吗? You do?
而且它一直在那里 And it's always right there.
- 抱歉 妈妈 - 噢 - Excuse me, Mama. - Ooh.
嗯 Mm.
这是德州的事 It's a Texas thing.
你不应该这样做 但你这么做了 You're not supposed to do it, but you're supposed to do it.
你应该拿你的幸运数字 You're supposed to take your lucky number,
但我们相信每个数字都会给某人带来好运 but we figure every number's lucky to somebody,
所以我们把它们都拿了 so we take all of 'em.
我不会告诉迈克和丹 I won't tell Mike and Dan.
好像他们会做任何事一样 Like they'd do anything.
他们会说这是个意外 They'd say it was an accident.
今晚的派对 Party tonight.
- 噢 着装要求是什么? - 噢 - Oh, what's the dress code? - Ugh.
野马和扣兔 Broncos and buckle bunnies.
呃 知道吗 他们现在的主题活动 Ugh. You know, they're seriously phoning it in
就是认真打电话 with the themes nowadays.
你今晚想来吗? You want to come tonight?
我可以借几件衣服给你 You can borrow something from my closet.
你可以去吗? You're okay to go?
它没有引起你太大兴趣吗? It doesn't stir up too many feelings for you?
你得继续生活 You gotta keep living life.
正如凯瑟琳大帝所说 Like Catherine the Great said,
“你现在必须回到马下” "You gotta get right back under the horse."
- 泰勒·克莱顿 - 什么? - Tyler Clayton. - What?
我... 我听了你推荐的那个历史播客 I-I listened to that history podcast you recommended.
我有个问题要问你 I've got a question for you.
你在德州有家人吗? Have you got family in Texas?
没有 No.
你现在有了 You do now.
- 对吗 各位? - 是的 女士 - Isn't that right, everybody? - Yes, ma'am.
小心你所希望的 本 Careful what you wish for, Ben.
稍等 One second.
谁那里有蜂蜜制品? Who's got a honey thing over there?
- 嗯 我这里有一些 - 有人要吗? 嗯 - Um, I got some right here. - Anybody? Mmm, mmm, mmm.
- 嘿 怎么了? - 嘿 - Hey. What's up? - Hey.
你的车爆炸了? Your car blew up?
你没事吧? Are you okay?
还好 没事 Yeah. Yes.
我是说 我倒想得到那个没人得到过的 I mean, I wish I got that extra rental insurance
额外租赁保险 但我没事 that no one ever gets, but I'm fine.
很好 好吧 听着 我完成它了 Good. Well, listen, I finished it,
而且大家都喜欢它 and everyone loves it.
谢谢 你说“完成它”是什么意思? Thanks. What do you mean "finished it"?
你显然处于危险中 You're clearly in danger,
而且你已经得到了你需要的一切 and you've already got everything you need.
好吧 我没能解决谋杀案 Well, I didn't solve the murder.
这样更好 It's better this way.
知道吗 一个没有解决方案的模糊结局 You know, an ambiguous ending without resolution.
是... 是这样一个故事的秘密武器 That's... that's the secret weapon with a story like this.
它啃噬着你 It gnaws at you.
它永远萦绕着你 It haunts you forever.
你永远摆不脱它 You never let it go.
不 这里还有更多事 埃洛伊丝 No, there's more to it, Eloise.
我已经很接近了 I-I'm getting so close.
尽管我们很想看到你 As much as we'd love to see you
- 被炸的故事... - 不 不 - blown up for a story... - No, no.
...我的良知告诉我 ...my conscience tells me
我必须选择人而不是故事 I have to choose a person over a story.
不 No.
不 不 No, no.
否则 就需要 比如 两年的心理治疗 Otherwise, it would take, like, two years of therapy
来证明我的选择 而且... to justify it, and...
在我的计划中 我负担不起这些 I can't afford that on my plan.
听着 你将因此获得成功 Look, you're gonna be huge from this.
好吗? Okay?
回家吧 Come home.
- 你还记得吗? - 嘿 你 - You remember? - Hey, you.
嘿 抱歉耽搁了下 Hey. Sorry about that.
那是谁? Who was that?
朋友 Friend.
是可爱的春分女孩吗? Was it Equinox Girl Cute?
或者是娜塔莉·班布尔? Or was it Natalie Bumble?
呃 是 呃 我的播客制作人 Uh, it was, uh, my podcast producer.
呃 一切都正常 Uh, and everything's on track.
你问得真贴心 You're very sweet to ask.
我很喜欢你 I love you mucho.
我们很高兴你找了艾比琳 We're so lucky you found Abilene.
我真不知道她看上了我什么 I really don't know what she saw in me.
我知道 I do.
我知道 我完全知道 I get it. I totally get it.
- 心见心 - 噢 - Heart sees heart. - Oh.
知道吗 当我来到这里与艾比家人共度时光... You know, when I came down here to spend time with Abby's...
“疯狂的德克萨斯家庭” 对吗? "Crazy Texan family," right?
是啊 Yeah.
呃 我从来没有想到会是这样 Uh, I never thought it would be like this.
大家会给你带来惊喜 People can surprise you.
是的 Yeah.
就像艾比琳 Like Abilene.
我是说 她充满了惊喜 I mean, she was full of surprises.
- 像艾比琳 - 嗯 - Like Abilene. - Mm-hmm.
大名鼎鼎 但却是个大药罐 Great reputation, but a huge pill-popper.
什么? What?
你刚才说什么? What'd you just say?
嗯 也许可以放在你的播客里 Mm. Put that in your podcast, maybe.
你从哪里听说的? Where'd you hear that?
姑娘们告诉我的 The girls told me.
泰不让我们说 Ty told us not to say anything.
你他妈是认真的吗? Are you fucking serious?
如果你知道她在吃药 I thought you wouldn't do this with me
我觉得你就不会帮我 if you knew that she was using.
你认为呢? You think?
艾比琳确实在吸毒 Drugs was something Abilene did.
这不是她的本性 It's not who she was.
但这是她死亡的原因 But it is how she died,
是我们正在调查的情况 which is what we were investigating.
我以为还有更多内情 I thought there was more to this.
我以为你和我可以互相了解 I thought that you and I would get to know each other,
而且这会很棒 and that would be cool.
我... 也许这是悲伤过程的一部分 I... Maybe it was part of the grieving process.
难道不是吗? Denial?
这不就是悲伤的12阶段之一吗? Isn't that one of the 12 steps of grief?
是悲伤的五个阶段 康复的12个步骤 It's five stages of grief, 12 steps to recovery,
但我明白 这里的每个人对后者更熟悉 but I understand that everyone here is more familiar with the latter.
这很复杂 It's complicated.
不是的 这实际上非常简单 It's not. It's actually very simple.
这里的一切其实都非常简单 Everything here is actually really simple,
也许这就是为什么我用这么长时间去了解它 and maybe that's why it took me so long to understand it.
好吧 我是随心而动 Well, I was following my heart,
这就是我们在这里所做的 and that's what we do around here.
你随心而动 You follow your heart.
是的 Yeah.
好吧 也许现在是时候看看周围 Well, maybe it's time to look around
并问问自己这对你来说有什么用了 and ask yourselves how that's working out for you.
也许你该改变一下 去试试随脑而动 Maybe you should try following your brain for a change.
因为当你随心而动时 Because when you follow your heart,
地球是平的 the Earth is flat,
气候变化是个骗局 climate change is a hoax,
疫苗含有微芯片 vaccines contain microchips,
还有墨西哥毒贩杀了你妹妹 and Mexican drug dealers killed your sister.
你们编造了这些该死的疯狂叙事 You invent these insane fucking narratives
来解释为什么你们的生活是如此糟糕的表演 to explain why your lives are such shit shows
因为事实对你们来说太可怕 无法面对 because the truth is too scary for you to face,
这就是你们对自己做的 which is that you did it to yourselves.
你知道在我的家乡 人们怎么说你们吗? Do you know what people say about you guys where I'm from?
- 我猜猜 坏话 - 不算差 - Let me guess. Bad things. - No. Worse.
我们说好话 We say good things.
“当我们该认真对带他们时 "We took them seriously
我们就‘认真’对待他们” when we should've taken them literally."
你都不是 You're neither.
你们不是认真的人 You're not serious people.
也许现在是你们 And maybe it's time for you all
认真对待我们的时候了 to take us seriously and literally
因为我的家乡很有趣 很有吸引力 because where I'm from is fun and interesting.
并且人们丰富多样 And the people are rich and diverse,
而同时 你们的城市看起来就像这样 and, meanwhile, your town looks like this!
祝福你 Bless your heart.
噢 我知道这什么意思 Oh, and I know what that means.
所以你知道吗? 祝福你的心 So you know what? Bless your heart.
祝福你 祝福你们所有人 Bless your heart. Bless all your hearts.
你们的心都可以祝福自己 All your hearts can go bless themselves.
你有什么资格对我们说? Who are you to talk to us?
我不得不拉上你去参加她该死的葬礼 I had to drag you to her fucking funeral!
你是谁? Who are you?
如果你的车在布鲁克林被炸了 If your car would've blown up in Brooklyn,
会有人... 会有人来帮你吗? would anyone... anyone come to help you?
首先 我在布鲁克林不需要车 First of all, I wouldn't have needed a car in Brooklyn.
其次 如果我有一辆 我怀疑它会被天知道 Second, if I had one, I doubt it would've been blown up
是谁炸毁 by God knows who.
我不懂你们这些人 I don't understand you people.
“你们这些人”是一种微歧视 "You people" is a microaggression.
我道歉 对你们所有人 My apologies. Y'all.
“Y'all”是一种文化挪用 "Y'all" is a cultural appropriation.
帕丽斯... Paris...
你指责别人文化挪用行为本身 you accusing someone of cultural appropriation
就是文化挪用 is cultural appropriation.
你为什么不照顾好她? Why wouldn't you look after her?
留意她的情况? Check in on her?
你不会为她做任何事 对吗? You wouldn't do anything for her, would you?
没错 我不会 That's right. I wouldn't.
我和不同的人交往 I was hooking up with different people,
我以为她也是 and I assumed she was, too,
因为我生活在现实世界中 because I live in the real world,
而这是每个人都会做的事 and that's what everybody does.
你给我打电话时 我就想告诉你这些 I tried to tell you this when you called.
她不是我的女朋友 She wasn't my girlfriend.
她只是我手机里的一个女孩 She was just a girl in my phone.
现在你打过架了 Now you've been in a fight.
我不了解整个故事... I don't know the whole story...
...但生活很复杂 ...but life is complicated.
甚至就在这附近 如果你相信的话 Even around here, if you can believe that.
我告诉你我的想法 I'll tell you what I think.
我认为人们不会无缘无故吸毒 I think people don't do drugs for no reason.
他们吸毒是因为他们很痛苦 They do drugs because they're in pain.
痛苦就像... Pain like...
你也许在关心一个连你名字都不知道的人 like maybe caring for someone who hardly knows your name.
所以 我不知道 本 So, I don't know, Ben.
但如果你还在为发生的事指责别人的话... But if you're still looking for someone to blame for what happened...
你也许就不需要大老远过来了 you may not have needed to come all this way.
祝福你 Bless your heart.
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你是对的 埃洛伊丝 You were right, Eloise.
我就是那个故事 I was the story.
一个自以为无所不知的人 A self-absorbed know-it-all
以为自己会弄清楚美国的意义 thinks he's gonna figure out the meaning of America,
而他学到的只是自己有多空虚 and all he learns is how empty he is.
我是个活在神话中的人 I was the one living a myth.
人们说 你会为你没有做的事后悔 They say you regret the things you don't do.
我不喜欢 I didn't love.
我没有故事 I have no story.
我想这就是故事 I guess that's the story.
我就是这个故事 而这个故事很糟 I am the story, and the story sucks.
这个故事不算什么 The story is nothing.
我要回家了 I'm coming home.
我很害怕 I'm scared.
你在害怕什么? What are you scared of?
鬼魂 Ghosts.
鬼魂不是真的 Ghosts aren't real.
如果鬼魂不是真的 为什么大家都知道它们是什么? If they're not real, how come everyone knows what they are?
它们作为一个想法是真的 但它们不是真的 真的 They're real as an idea, but they're not real, real.
这就是鬼魂为什么可怕 它们并不真实 That's what's scary about ghosts, that they aren't real.
如果鬼魂是真的 它们根本不可怕 对吗? If ghosts were real, they wouldn't be scary at all, right?
我们就会微笑着说“嗨 鬼魂” We would just smile and say, "Hi, ghosts."
嗨 鬼魂 Hi, ghosts.
嗨 鬼魂 Hi, ghost.
那不是很酷吗? Wouldn't that be cool?
如果当某人不在这里了 If when someone wasn't there anymore,
但仍有他们的小部分痕迹 there was still a little piece of them
这有时会吓到你吗? that could surprise you sometimes?
会 Yeah.
但这里并没有 什么都没有 But there's not, there's nothing.
而这正是鬼魂的可怕之处 And that's what's scary about ghosts.
那个感觉好像 That the little piece of someone
还在这里的人 that feels like it might still be there
根本就不存在 isn't there at all.
你感觉好些了吗? Do you feel better?
没有 No.
我也没有 Me neither.
谢谢你倾听 Thanks for listening.
我明天就要走了 梅森 I'm leaving tomorrow, Mason.
我很喜欢你 I love you mucho.
1435 1-4-3-5.
什么? What?
1435 1-4-3-5.
这是艾比以前跟我说的 It's what Abby used to say to me.
她经常说“我很喜欢你” She used to say, "I love you mucho,"
但后来她缩短了它 but then she shortened it.
所以这有点像一个密码 So it was kind of like a secret code
因为这是“我很喜欢你”的字母数 'cause that's the number of letters in "I love you mucho."
1435 1-4-3-5.
帮帮我 帮帮我 帮我 你怎么会这样离开我
- 没有人能知道我们的事 对吗? - 完全正确
我在手机里把你设为“本”了 哈哈
- 本是谁? - 我曾勾搭过的一个纽约人
我们发短信时 家里人以为我在和他发 他们很喜欢他 有点温馨
聪明
- 今晚见 - 帮帮我 帮帮我 帮我
喂? Hello?
这很精彩 This is beautiful.
是什么? What is?
你刚录下的内容 What you just recorded.
你的结束语 Your concluding piece.
就是我们从一开始就谈到的 It's what we talked about from the beginning.
这是分离 神话... It's disconnection, myth...
呃 故事总是个人的 但... Uh, stories are always personal, but...
...这就是你 ...this is you.
知道吗 你就是这样 You know, it's so you.
每个人... 都这样 It's kind of... everyone.
你还没有锁定它 是吗? You didn't lock that yet, did you?
没有 要等到早上 No, not till the morning.
你可以在服务器上查看 It's on the server if you want to check it out.
很好 很好 呃 只是今晚不要动它 Great, great. Uh, just-just don't touch it tonight.
呃... 还没有全部完成 There's, uh... It's not 100%.
有一段我要补充一下 There's a tiny piece I'm gonna add.
不 不要动它 这很好了 No, don't touch it. It's great.
你只会把它搞砸 不要 You're only gonna fuck it up. Don't.
你现在在哪里? Where are you right now?
呃 我在一辆优步里 Uh, I'm in an Uber.
好吧 总之 干得不错 Well, anyway, good job.
人们会喜欢这个 People are gonna love this.
我不知道你还有这本事 I didn't know you had it in you.
也许我也有 Or maybe I did.
心见心 对吗? Heart sees heart, right?
好的 好吧 Okay, all right.
好吧 等到明天早上 好吗? 好的 拜 All right, just wait till the morning, okay? Okay, bye.
- 哪儿都不要去 - 是 先生 - Don't go anywhere. - Yes, sir.
看看他 Look at him!
没错 德州理工大学的烟花 婊子 Fuck yeah. Texas Tech fireworks, bitch.
红色和黑色 宝贝 Red and black, baby.
你在耍我吗? Are you shitting me?
我告诉过你黑色烟花看不见 你这傻瓜 I told you black fireworks ain't gonna show, you jackass.
我可以看见 I can see 'em.
噢 嘿 Oh. Hey.
是长角队的球迷 It's the Longhorns fan.
你的车怎样了 伙计? How's your car, man?
你喜欢我们对它做的事吗? You like what we did to it?
是因为足球吗? That was about football?
我的天 Jesus Christ.
你他妈在这里做什么? What the fuck are you doing here?
我收到了邀请 I got an invite.
- 噢 你穿着我的衣服 - 是的 - Oh, you're wearing my shit. - Yeah.
搞什么? What the fuck?
好吧 这是他的帽子 所以... Okay, well, it's his hat, so...
你最好小心 那是把上膛的枪 You better be careful. That's a loaded gun.
你的枪都上膛吗? You keep your gun loaded?
你的手机一直都充电吗? You keep your phone charged?
- 你是怎么来这里的? - 梅森开车送我 - How'd you even get here? - Mason drove me.
梅森又他妈是谁? Who in the fuck is Mason?
梅森是你的弟弟 Mason's your fucking brother.
我会盯着你 I'd watch your back.
你在这里没有朋友 You don't have friends here.
看看这是谁 Look who it is.
- 我的朋友 - 看看你 伙计 - My friend. - Look at you, bud.
你好吗? How you doing?
那个播客进展如何? How's that podcast coming?
我昨晚发出去了 I sent it in last night.
你还在这里? You're still here?
还在这里 Still here.
德州有种吸引力 不是吗? Texas has a pull, doesn't it?
你最后会喜欢它的 Kinda gets under your skin.
完全的 Hundred percent.
你为什么不把那东西打开? Why don't you turn that thing on?
有个故事给你 Got a story for you.
伙计们 Fellas.
美国第一部毒品法于1875年通过 First drug law in the United States passed in 1875.
中国铁路工人 The Chinese rail workers
- 带来了鸦片烟馆 - 嗯 - brought in the opium den. - Mm.
这个国家是如此反对移民 And this country was so antI-Immigrant
以至于他们禁了鸦片烟馆 that they banned the opium den.
- 不是禁鸦片 - 嗯 - Not the opium. - Hmm.
对吧? Right?
你有听过比这更美国特色的事吗? You ever hear anything more American than that?
我是说 现在有一种鸦片流行病 I mean, now we got an opium epidemic
在我们整个中心地带爆发 breaking out across the heartland
所有的仪式 威严 魅力和乐趣都被抹除了 with all the ceremony, majesty, glamour and fun's removed.
而且 这就是人们渴望的 And-and that's what people yearn for.
你明白我在说什么吗? You see what I'm saying?
你觉得加里·韦伯今天还会赢得普利策奖吗? Do you think Gary Webb would've won a Pulitzer today?
知道吗 我认为你留在这里是明智的 You know, I think you were smart for staying here.
- 是吗? - 是的 - Yeah? - Yeah.
那个关于艾比琳的故事 很不错 That story about Abilene, it's nice.
我认为你注定要讲一个更大的故事 I think you were meant to tell a bigger story.
问问自己 如今这个国家的哪部分 Ask yourself, what part of the country today
因某些人的利益而继续 is it in certain people's interest
遭受破坏 士气低落 to keep devastated, demoralized,
依赖和分裂? dependent and divided?
你得到了阿片类药物危机 You got the opioid crisis,
国家分裂 民间动荡 nation in divide, civic unrest.
为什么所有这些事在同一时间发生? Why are all these things happening at the same time?
你真的认为这里发生了什么吗? What do you really think is going on here?
跟你说 我有个故事给你 Told you I had a story for you.
那你要说什么呢? So what are you saying?
这一切都有联系吗? That it all connects?
阴谋论是真的吗? That the conspiracy theories are true?
我想说的是 What I'm saying is
人们可以感知真相 people can sense the truth,
但他们正在抓住事实 but they're grasping for the facts.
你看 神话只是个没有事实的真相 See, a myth is just a truth without facts.
这就是为什么它出来时都是抽象 扭曲 That's why it comes out all abstract, gnarled,
错误的 wrong.
很容易被否定和嘲弄 Easy to dismiss and ridicule.
没人听他们的意见 Nobody listens to them
因为他们没有掌握事实 because they don't have the facts.
但我有 But I do.
而你 本... And you, Ben...
嗯 Yeah.
...整个该死的世界都会听你的 ...the whole damn world will listen to you.
他们要去哪里? Where are they going?
余兴派对 Afterparty.
余兴派对 The Afterparty.
告诉我这个情况 Tell me about that.
我是说 人们每天都会用药过量上百次 本 I mean, people overdose a hundred times a day, Ben.
这是事实 That's a fact.
但他们不能在一个对你我这样的人 But they can't do it in a place where it's gonna be
来说是个问题的地方做这件事吧? a problem for people like you and I. Hmm?
这就是艾比琳身上发生的事 That's what happened to Abilene.
艾比琳? Abilene?
我是说 她死在一个这种派对上 I mean, she died at a party like this.
我以为你完成了那个故事 I thought you finished that story.
噢 Oh.
这只是为了我们 This is just for us.
好吧 反正这不是个很好的故事 Well, it's not a very good story anyway.
噢 她是个瘾君子 Oh, she was a drug addict.
她吸毒过量 She OD'd.
然后她试图拨打911 Then she tried to call 911.
噢 在德州 我们不打911 Oh. In Texas, we don't call 911.
是的 我听说过 Yeah, I've heard that.
他们记录了全部通话 They record all those calls.
我们必须非常谨慎的对待被记录的内容 We gotta be very careful about what gets recorded.
是的 你会 Yeah. You do.
这是我们剩下的一切 It's all that's left of us.
录音 The recordings.
还有像你我 艾比琳这样的人 And people like you and I, Abilene,
每个人都在上传自己一天中所有部分的照片 everybody posting photos of every part of their day,
我们用我们的整个生活 we trade in our entire lives
来换取被记录下来的微小片段 for the tiny pieces that get recorded of us.
艾比琳试图打911 Abilene tried to call 911.
你没让她打 然后呢? You didn't let her. Then what?
噢 天哪 Oh, boy.
不要分心 Don't get distracted.
你必须承认 这是个该死的分心 You gotta admit, that's a hell of a distraction.
这... 这有点像是分心的定义 That is... That's kind of like the very definition of distraction.
- 艾比琳 - 艾比琳 - Abilene. - Abilene.
艾比琳怎么了? What happened to Abilene?
你相信有鬼魂吗 本? Do you believe in ghosts, Ben?
我之前接到一个鬼魂的电话 I got a call from a ghost earlier.
我在想今天会见到你呢 Kind of thought I'd be seeing you today.
她怎么了? What happened to her?
你为什么如此关心? Why do you care so much?
你为什么如此不关心呢? Why do you care so little?
她用药过量 She overdosed.
你没有帮她 Instead of helping her,
而是把她拉到余兴派对 you dragged her to the Afterparty,
那是个没有手机信号的地方 which is a spot with no cell reception
正好是四个重叠 at the exact intersection
法律管辖区的交汇处 of four overlapping law jurisdictions
你知道她的死亡 where you knew her death
只会成为一个匿名统计数字 would just become an anonymous statistic.
嗯 Hmm.
这句话说得好 It's well said.
非常简洁 Very succinct.
是的 这正是发生的事情 Yes. That's exactly what happened.
聪明 Brilliant.
你找到了 You got it.
你找到了一切 You got it all.
这是个关于美国的故事 That's a story about America.
如果你需要我重新录制什么 请告诉我 Let me know if you need me to rerecord anything.
或者 比如 重新描述情况 Or, like, rephrase things.
我也能做到这点 I can do that, too.
什么? What?
噢 来... Oh, come...
你和我将会坐在一个小组中 You and I are gonna be sitting on a panel
讨论这个问题 我希望它很棒 talking about this. I want it to be great.
我们都知道这是怎么回事 对吗? We both know how this works. Right?
是的 我是说 一开始 Yeah, I-I mean, at first,
每个人都会认为你找到了坏人 everyone's gonna think you got your bad guy.
没人会让事情变得那么简单 Nobody's gonna let it be that simple.
每个人都必须有自己的看法 Everyone's gonna have to have their take
因为这就是现在的运行方式 'cause that's how it works now.
每个人都有自己的看法 Everyone has a take.
你看 如果你没有看法 你就没有发言权 See, if you don't have a take, you don't have a voice.
如果你没有发言权 你就不存在 If you don't have a voice, you don't exist.
所以是的 一开始每个人都会指责我 So yeah, at first, everyone's gonna blame me.
但随后有人会说“等一下” But then someone's gonna say, "Wait a second."
任由一个人死去和杀死一个人 There's a big difference between leaving somebody to die
有很大的区别 and killing somebody.
然后他们就会把矛头转向你 Then they're gonna turn to you.
你一开始在这里做什么? What were you doing here in the first place?
你和她是什么关系? What was your relationship with her?
你为什么要利用她悲痛的家人? Why would you exploit her grieving family?
那些... Those...
那些人物 Those characters.
我是说... 这就是他们要做的事 I mean... I mean, that's what they're gonna be.
著名人物 Famous characters.
不是著名的人 Not famous people.
接下来他们会指责她的家人 And then they're gonna blame the family.
噢 我希望他们已经准备好了 Oh, I hope they're ready for that.
他们会指责总统 They'll blame the president.
上一任总统 The last president.
然后他们就开始讲阴谋论了 And then they'll start in with the conspiracy theories.
你知道 有人会反驳那些阴谋论 You know, and someone will refute the conspiracy theories,
然后一方会为他们的说法提出理由 and then one side will make their version like their cause.
而另一方将带着对方进入 And the other side will take the other side
无休无止的互相争斗 just to take the other side and on, and on.
直到你的故事证明了 Until your story proves
我们这个时代的决定性真相 the defining truth of our time.
那是什么? Which is what?
一切意味着任何东西 Everything means everything.
所以没有任何意义 So nothing means anything.
有些东西是有意义的 Some things mean something.
是吗? Yeah?
比如什么? Like what?
艾比琳? Abilene?
你并不关心她 You didn't care about her.
你来这里是为了你自己 You came here for yourself.
为了录音 For recording.
然后你听到了她的音乐 And then you heard her music.
也看到了她的照片 And you saw her photos.
她的录音 The record of her.
这正是你所关心的 And that's what you care for.
一个录音 A recording.
不是一个人 Not a person.
我们都... We are all...
只是记录 just inspirations
自己的灵感而已 for the record of ourselves.
你我都知道这点 You and I both know it.
你得到了你的作品 You got your opus.
这才是最重要的 And that's what matters.
至于艾比琳? But Abilene?
这个人? The person?
得了吧 Come on.
她就是个女孩 She was just some girl.
这是事实 本 That's the truth, Ben.
完全的 Hundred percent.
♪ "American" by Lana Del Rey
删除项目 无法撤消 取消 全部删除
我们收到一个可能用药过量的报告 We got a report of a possible overdose.
4940 余兴派对 4940, Afterparty.
救护车出发了 Ambulance en route.
周六晚上打911? A 911 on a Saturday night?
胡扯 Bullshit.
每个人 People.
收到一个报告 Got a report.
昆汀·塞勒斯头部中枪 Quentin Sellers shot in the head.
昆? Q?
我没想到那家伙也容易出意外 I never thought of that guy as accident-prone.
我听说你们都和好了 I heard that y'all made up.
是的 Yeah.
据我所知 昨晚的聚会相当热闹 And I understand that was quite a party last night.
我没去 I wasn't there.
没错 你没有 That's right, you weren't.
但是... But...
我听说那是个相当不错的聚会 I heard it was a pretty good party.
我... I've...
非常喜欢待在你的家里 very much enjoyed being in your home.
你需要搭个便车 You're gonna need a ride.
这倒是真的 That's true.
我的车 呃... My car is, uh...
你回去后有什么打算? What are your plans when you get back?
我想我必须找一个新的故事 Guess I have to find a new story.
在经历这一切之后? After all that?
那艾比所有那些事呢? What about all that stuff with Abby?
我想这个故事就是为我们准备的 I think that story's just for us.
噢 Oh.
这样也好 That's nice, too.
没有遗憾 No regrets.
我一直不理解这句话 I never understood that.
没有遗憾 No regrets.
我是说 你怎么... I mean, how do you...
在我的人生中 一切都以遗憾开始 In my life, everything starts with a regret,
以遗憾结束 ends with a regret.
在这之间 是遗憾 In between, regrets.
都是遗憾 It's all regrets.
即使你很快从上一个遗憾中摆脱 You run as fast as you can from the last regret
但你只是直接跑进了下一个遗憾 and, of course, you're just running straight into the next one.
这就是生活 That's life.
它都是遗憾 It's all regrets.
人们应该这么说 That's what they should say.
没有别的方式可以活着 No other way to be alive.
生活都是遗憾 It's all regrets.
所以要好好活着 Make 'em count.
仇 念